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Join Date: Jan 2013
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does anybody know what rating is required to get into a american university and play division 1 tennis?
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You should be one of the top players in your country.
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But seriously, I dont think a specific rating to play, unless you want a scholarship. If you are good enough, they will take you. However, you should be at least an NTRP 5.0 rated player (not sure what the equivalent is in the UK) if you hope to play on the team, and most likely an NTRP 5.5 rated player at the top schools (e.g., UVA, UCLA, Stanford, etc.).
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you need at least some ATP points. I would say most D1 players are ranked like 700 in the world or so (the best are higher).
Guys like john isner, alexander waske, the bryan twins and many others played college tennis. Last edited by dominikk1985 : 01-12-2013 at 04:19 PM. |
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ITF blue chips for top 50 in tennis ratings at universities in the U.S. Just win a lot in the junior circuits, though I have seen a person who posted youtube videos of his game and he got accepted at a D1 school.
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I believe that Div 1 players in US universities are generally in the 5.0 to 6.0 NTRP range. This is equivalent to ITN of 4 thru 2, respectively. That should equate to a UK rating of 4.1/4.2 up to 2.1/2.2
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For a D1 school, I believe it is between 5.5 - 6.0/7.0. Most players at the top echelon of D1 either go pro or are near pro level i.e Devarrman/Isner/Johnson etc. The minimum could be a 5.0, but at a competitive D1 I think it'd be more correct to be 5.5.
A competitive D2 is about 5.0 - 5.5, and a competitive D3 is probably 4.5 - 5.0. The best of each division would only be average for the next level. There are always exceptions, but I think these are good estimates. |
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NTRP ratings are absolutely useless in recruiting and have no part in the conversation. Junior tennis is evaluated on rankings and results in big tournaments.
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It depends on the university you're wanting to attend. The higher the university is ranked, the higher their standards will be.
Universities look at your national ranking, players you've played against and beat, your game and how well it fits into their team/what they are looking for. Pick 4-5 universities, make a 10min video of yourself playing, write up a resume about yourself of your past results, goals, what you want to study etc. If you are completely lost, there are paid services that help players get into US universities. Div. 1 for the most part isn't that difficult as the level can be pretty wide. Some Div. 1 schools can be pretty dismal. NCAA Div. 2 schools are sometimes just as good and better than a lot of Div. 1 schools. The recruiting is a bit more relaxed there, as players who've accepted prize money in the past on the ITF circuit playing Futures are still eligible but only up to a certain % of money accepted. I don't know all the details and maybe the rules have changed since. Florida, Georgia, California, Texas will be your hot spots of good athletics programs. Look at tennis recruiting videos on Youtube to get an idea of how to make one. It will be necessary otherwise you will not have a chance. What you can also do is try emailing a coach at a university and ask him a bunch of questions of what is required and so on, the playing standards, tell him your ranking and what sort of university you'd have a shot at. Don't email the coach at UCLA or Stanford, but a regular Div. 1 school will do. Don't make it a long email, as they are pretty busy. Don't expect an answer, so you could try emailing a few coaches and see who responds. They are usually very friendly, and considering you're from England they'll know you're trying to get info not easily available.
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Tayy - contact Sarah at tennissmart.net, they specialise in helping place UK students at US Universities and will be best placed to advise you on the process and requirements.
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Thanks guys
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or would you say that john isner or the bryans were only 5.0-5.5 players? wouldn't 6.0 to 7.0 be more acurate? |
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There is a huge spread in D1 players. I would be surprised if the #6 singles players at teams like East Tennessee State and University of Alabama Birmingham are 5.5+
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Interesting that you bring up UAB. I don't really follow them closely so not sure what they are like now but I remember back in my college playing days they were awesome. Had a couple of all-americans on the roster who went on to play on the ATP.
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Note that players outside of the top 400 in the world are generally not 7.0 players. It is rare that a current D1 player would be able to compete with players in the top 300. Therefore, the top D1 players would usually be closer to a 6.0 or 6.5 level. http://assets.usta.com/assets/1/15/G...Guidelines.pdf |
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A San Diego 4.0 can make mincemeat of any D1 player.
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Watch some Division 1 tennis and you'll realize that Isner and the Bryan brothers are much better than the average Division 1 player. I was under the impression that a Division 1 player is normally considered a 5.5 player unless there is evidence otherwise. The best players are/are approaching 7.0s. The worst players at D1 are probably 5.0s. There are some D1 players who have ugly games but they are almost all very consistent.
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Only if he posts on TTW
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Top 2 or 3 in your country? For college? Come on guys, please don't offer advice like this.
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