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Old 01-13-2013, 06:23 PM   #381
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Really, to you maybe, but where I come from, you don't run your mouth if
you don't have a good idea about what you are talking about.
Then you should ask and find out about it, and then make up your mind. Or are you afraid of the consequences of disagreeing? I have no axe to grind, so I can be honest about what I say.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:27 PM   #382
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Then you should ask and find out about it, and then make up your mind. Or are you afraid of the consequences of disagreeing? I have no axe to grind, so I can be honest about what I say.
Because I'm not posting on it, unlike you maybe, does not mean I'm not asking

Also the issue of the yank or not and counting or not ...they are so minor and
I use as I see fit...like all instruction.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:35 PM   #383
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Because I'm not posting on it, unlike you maybe, does not mean I'm not asking

Also the issue of the yank or not and counting or not ...they are so minor and
I use as I see fit...like all instruction.
Likewise, all the distinctions about modern and old tennis instruction is a fabrication on this forum. I follow tennis literature extensively, and it is a non-issue in practice. No one is sweating about it. Things evolve naturally and people adapt, keeping the old where it is useful and adopting new changes. There are far more important issues which make a difference than the stuff drummed up on this forum in order to create some false dichotomies and taking of sides. It is fun to argue for a while till it gets boring.

In fact, that is what JY seems to be hinting with the thread title.
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Likewise, all the distinctions about modern and old tennis instruction is a fabrication on this forum.
You might feel different if you had studied many of the available books, developing
quite a library over 15 yrs while subscribing to TP as well and seeing mostly
the same classic stuff rehashed...training at Evert, Hilton Head, Macci's etc...
then discovering MTM and seeing everything
change and improve dramatically, in a very short time.
The distinctions can be subtle, but to those that have experienced them, they
are important.
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Suresh,

You bet it exists! Just not in the form of some of the people who claim to understand it.
Good to you see you two working together so well. See what you think of his
new found site on feeltennis.net. I expect you guys will agree on what you see.

Speaking of claiming to understand it....What about that Bh piece in Tennis mag
this month? How do you like John Evert's version of the 2 hander Bh?
I guess that is modern too?
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5263:

Let's see you put down the coaching fraternity because they are all teaching "classical" tennis and ruining America etc. But you have no idea what well known, innovative, successful and yes modern coaches are actually doing.

I give you the names of a few well known guys (at least among knowledgeable industry people) who are leaders in developing coaching knowledge as well as players in the modern era.

And you ask whether there is any reason you should know what they think or have done? That's pathetic.
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Suresh,

You got the hint.

Also that is a hell of an exposition of the state of the tennis world, coaching etc.

The 10 and Under thing is very interesting. One of the ITF and USTA premises is that it will allow kids to have conservative grips, learn neutral stances, reasonable contact heights, and develop all court play instead of teaching them extreme "modern" elements that don't necessarily lead to a sport for life.

And let's face it, as Jim Loehr said quite seriously, the statistical chance of being attacked by a great white shark is way higher than making the top 100 on the tour.
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and the open stance two hander is technically sound as well. It must be that he used the term out to the target or something right?
Nope and clearly you missed the obvious flaw,
But oh, you know modern so well?
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