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Old 01-02-2013, 01:52 AM   #21
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Yeah, I used to play a lot of chess. Patzer refers to more or less perpetually bad, very amateurish, chess players. It can be used to refer to more or less perpetually bad, very amateurish, tennis players as well ... I guess.
i like that word heard it a lot when i was younger, bit old-fashioned nowadays in a nice way
also accurately describes my efforts at the chess board
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Old 01-02-2013, 02:13 AM   #22
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What's the Hawaiian grip?




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Old 01-02-2013, 02:20 AM   #23
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it will be played on a playstation which means andy murray is going to win slams into his 50s and finish as the GOAT with 100 slams.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:13 AM   #24
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Tennis isn't going retro. Think more tech, not less.

Tennis in 2033 will be a high tech form of singles-paddle, so the NanoSurfice(TM) courts will be surrounded by clear walls, with an extra high ceiling that drops down in 5th set tie breaks. The players will be team-owned* purposefully genetically engineered humans, supported with a myriad of performance enhancing drugs and bio-technology.

More tech all round, sensors / data measuring every player/projectile (balls discontinued since 2025) movement and conditions, all streamed to chips in spectators' frontal lobs, if they have subscriptions. For a premium subscription fee viewers will have emotioVision which will allow you to sense what your chosen avatar/player feels, every hit, the joy of every winner, the agony of every error, every drop of sweat, every tug of the rear-end of the shorts, every grunt and every injury!

The masses of spectators globally will get to 'vote' on playing conditions before every set by using a pay-per-vote icon on their iGooSung headsets: how responsive the projectile is to hits and what the wall and ground surfaces are like, what kind of weather conditions are simulated in the arena. Nanotechnology will allow dynamically changing surfaces between sets and randomly changing surfaces during 5th set tie breaks.

The highest bidding fans will end up controlling the human player avatars like that Gamer movie.


* Global Trade Law allows teams to own genetically engineered humans for their first 25 years of post birth as they are deemed the intellectual property of the team and are protected under copyright. Non-genetically engineered players, often but not exclusively from the frontier world (i.e. former developing world), are not allowed to compete under GTO (Global Tennis Organisation) sanctioned tournaments as their parents wouldn't have been able to afford to buy the 'right' gene combination deamed by regulations to be 'tennis-player'. These so called 'Non-Regs' are often bought by the corporate teams to be used as training partners for Gene-Approved players.

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Old 01-02-2013, 06:24 AM   #25
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^^ nice imagination.

yeah - eventually natural born persons will not be relevant.. the natural humans have too many flaws.

robots - mechanical or genetic engineered, will run the world.

well, maybe not as soon as 2033 though.
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:47 AM   #26
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Tennis isn't going retro. Think more tech, not less.

Tennis in 2033 will be a high tech form of singles-paddle, so the NanoSurfice(TM) courts will be surrounded by clear walls, with an extra high ceiling that drops down in 5th set tie breaks. The players will be team-owned* purposefully genetically engineered humans, supported with a myriad of performance enhancing drugs and bio-technology.

More tech all round, sensors / data measuring every player/projectile (balls discontinued since 2025) movement and conditions, all streamed to chips in spectators' frontal lobs, if they have subscriptions. For a premium subscription fee viewers will have emotioVision which will allow you to sense what your chosen avatar/player feels, every hit, the joy of every winner, the agony of every error, every drop of sweat, every tug of the rear-end of the shorts, every grunt and every injury!

The masses of spectators globally will get to 'vote' on playing conditions before every set by using a pay-per-vote icon on their iGooSung headsets: how responsive the projectile is to hits and what the wall and ground surfaces are like, what kind of weather conditions are simulated in the arena. Nanotechnology will allow dynamically changing surfaces between sets and randomly changing surfaces during 5th set tie breaks.

The highest bidding fans will end up controlling the human player avatars like that Gamer movie.


* Global Trade Law allows teams to own genetically engineered humans for their first 25 years of post birth as they are deemed the intellectual property of the team and are protected under copyright. Non-genetically engineered players, often but not exclusively from the frontier world (i.e. former developing world), are not allowed to compete under GTO (Global Tennis Organisation) sanctioned tournaments as their parents wouldn't have been able to afford to buy the 'right' gene combination deamed by regulations to be 'tennis-player'. These so called 'Non-Regs' are often bought by the corporate teams to be used as training partners for Gene-Approved players.
Get working on your screenplay. Hollywood's gonna option this...
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Old 01-03-2013, 07:35 AM   #27
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Hawaiian grip will be considered "old-school" in 2033, as players will favor more extreme grips, like the Filipino grip and the Ni-Vanuatu grip.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:46 AM   #28
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Hawaiian grip will be considered "old-school" in 2033, as players will favor more extreme grips, like the Filipino grip and the Ni-Vanuatu grip.
Now I got a name for Gasquet's FH grip: a Filipino grip!
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Old 01-15-2013, 06:07 AM   #29
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Get working on your screenplay. Hollywood's gonna option this...
haha! i might need to add some romantic interest/love-story angle for it to work.
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:39 AM   #30
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haha! i might need to add some romantic interest/love-story angle for it to work.
#1 seed falls in love with a ball girl at the Fiji Open, but her parents don't approve. They force him to decide between their daughter and his career. BAM! Send me the royalty checks to my home address
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Tennis isn't going retro. Think more tech, not less.
Beautiful post Relinquis. A masterpiece to be sure!
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:08 PM   #32
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thanks for the kind comments guys... much appreciated.

i like the ball girl love interest angle... maybe we can make the #1 seed a non-reg posing as a GTO Sanctioned player.... something like "Gattaca", one of my favourite films...

Ethan Hawke is probably too old to play a tennis player, but would have been great when young.
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Old 04-25-2013, 05:16 PM   #33
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You guys do realize the only way tennis got to where it is toady is because money right? How can you make money from promoting wooden racquets that are all the 'same'. The development and the 'differences' in racquet technology are what fund a lot of tennis.
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:04 PM   #34
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We've seen all the big changes that will ever happen in tennis.

The racquets are a big as they'll ever be, and all these new technologies in racquets don't really make them better, its just a marketing ploy.

I think we've even hit the upper limit of string technology until they come up with better coatings and materials to remove friction and provide better snap, thus creating even more topspin forcing courts to slow even more and balls to become more heavy, and then everyone will be like Nadal with two blown knees from the long, horribly boring I might add, rallies.

With that said, we'll probably figure out how to maximize human potential even more through better nutrition, advanced healing techniques, so we might see play sped up a bit to compensate and players might be able to have a career into their 40s and still win.
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You guys do realize the only way tennis got to where it is toady is because money right? How can you make money from promoting wooden racquets that are all the 'same'. The development and the 'differences' in racquet technology are what fund a lot of tennis.
You're giving the tennis equipment makers too much credit.

For starters, I'm not sure about where tennis "is today." It's still not mainstream. Tennis is a fringe sport when it comes to money and this has been discussed in many different threads. From the budget of the ATP (compare to NBA) to the amount of money the 100th best tennis player in the world makes (compare 100th best golfer), tennis really has no money.

More importantly, to the extent tennis has money at all, it's not because of sponsorship or ad dollars from perpetually struggling companies like Prince! Sporting goods makers are barely surviving themselves. What commercial success tennis has found is the result of personalities like Agassi, Mac and Connors, long term deals with television networks, huge tour name sponsors like Sony and wealthy tournament owners like Larry Ellison.

Those companies that buy TV ads during matches, give free stuff to players and buy cute little banners at the stadiums are pretty far down the food chain. And, even among those, I would argue that Rolex and Porsche are much more important to the financial health of the game than, say, Wilson and Volkl!
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:26 PM   #36
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Can only hope all D1 matches will be streamed in full hd, all L2 and National junior tournaments streamed and every talk tennis league match streamed live.
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You do realise the difference between now and 2033 is the same as the difference between now and 1991.

The game will be more or less the same, with more spin/power. Strings will offer more of both with the same control, frames will get even lighter.

The biggest change, the pros will be even fitter - Djokovic/Murray/Nadal levels of fitness will be standard for the top 100 or so.

Netplay and faster courts might come back into fashion to make up for the ridiculous level of fitness.

Most importantly though:
Head will release the Radical ElectoSponge, with more power and less shock.
Wilson will release the Federer Retro Tour 90 through tennis warehouse
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so is the difference between 1991 and 1970... racquets went from 14oz wood to 12.5-13oz graphite... strings from Natural gut to hybrids, kevlar and poly... but the biggest changes were socio-economic... tennis became a global business and source of national pride vs. a pastime for the well heeled... the top tennis pros became wealthy celebs pushing consumer products vs. the faceless upper middle class... surfaces went from predominantly grass/clay to predominantly hardcourt... more and more decisions about the sport where constrained/drive by national agendas, TV requirements, corporate advertiser dollars and large, opaque professional bureaucracies.

the difference could be just a drastic, if not more... socio-economic impact of merging tennis, squash, paddle, badminton and table tennis with the technology* available in 2033 and the power structures in the world at that time will create something we can't really fathom... a new hybrid sport that will attract the serious marketing money. There have already been business folk, like Bernie** from F1 who have suggested limiting the amount of points, having set advertising breaks and limiting the time of matches... He didn't suggest his just in the press, rather he had had discussions about taking over the sport...

Look at football... teenagers in provincial town in China are religiously faithful to a teams based in 2nd tier European cities, which are comprised of players from all over the globe, not just wealthy nations and are owned by wealthy americans. it's a very different dynamic from the support your neighbourhood/city team because that' where you grew up/what your dad supported dynamic of just a few decades ago.

Or maybe tennis will remain as tennis... it will remain impervious to fundamental change... it will continue to be, ultimately, about one person across the net from another. A game, ultimately of skill and wits.


* Biotechnology, Nanotechnology, whateverotechnology, etc...
** http://www.sportsvibe.co.uk/news/f1/...supremo-24339/
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Can only hope all D1 matches will be streamed in full hd, all L2 and National junior tournaments streamed and every talk tennis league match streamed live.
Not only that but you got the (sun)glasses cam, racket cam, and hell even a ball cam.

No more line judge as every inch of the court is made of smart court sensors. Balls are called in/out to the 1mm.
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You guys do realize the only way tennis got to where it is toady is because money right? How can you make money from promoting wooden racquets that are all the 'same'. The development and the 'differences' in racquet technology are what fund a lot of tennis.
graphite is still Carbon-12, whichever way you arrange its molecules

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do you know how many different types of trees there are? marketers' wetdream
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