Does Roger's 2012 wimbly win feel hollow? - Page 2

zagor · 01-15-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

What about the roof? Andy was winning until roof decided to chip in..

Actually it was 1-1 in sets before they decided to close the roof so illuminate us, how was Murray *winning* exactly?

RAFA2005RG · 01-15-2013, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

Spot on..JMDP deserved it more than him..he just lucked it out..

I didn't think of it that way, I just meant that Federer was talking about the Olympics as being his main focus of 2012, and to go home with a silver (and one of the most lopsided final losses ever vs Murray) would be a hollow feeling given his expectations. And he would have been pretty sure of beating Murray.

Tafmatch · 01-15-2013, 11:40 PM

It's a shame for Fed Rafa wasn't there. Would have been three quick sets.

But us usual Rafa wasn't there so Fed couldn't beat him.

tusharlovesrafa · 01-15-2013, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by zagor

Actually it was 1-1 in sets before they decided to close the roof so illuminate us, how was Murray *winning* exactly?

Murray was playing better in the SUN,as the rain came it affected Murray's rhythm and his game just collapsed.fed is one luck dude,I am telling you..

Dark Magician · 01-15-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

He didn't go through Nadal to win it.And he took advantage of the roof.Period

umm no.
He beat Djokovic. Roof or not he was playing better.
Against Murray, Before roof closed, he was 1-1 set, and 2-1 up in 3rd and momentum was on his side.
He was better than Nadal, who got Rosoled in ....2nd round.
So he was clearly the best out there.

RAFA2005RG · 01-15-2013, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tafmatch

It's a shame for Fed Rafa wasn't there. Would have been three quick sets.

But us usual Rafa wasn't there so Fed couldn't beat him.

I bet you'd be saying the same thing about the Australian Open if Nadal and Federer had never met at the Australian Open in 2009 and 2012.

Candide · 01-15-2013, 11:50 PM

I imagine many of Federer's victories off clay feel equally hollow because Ralphie can't make it past the lesser players in earlier rounds. All of his end of year championships must feel like cardboard trophies because you know who can't make a final.

It's completely Federer's fault that Nadal is relatively weak off clay and he should either give the kid coaching or play with lead boots to make everything more fair and... deserving.

ruerooo · 01-15-2013, 11:54 PM

*sigh*

No.

/thread

zagor · 01-16-2013, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

Murray was playing better in the SUN,as the rain came it affected Murray's rhythm and his game just collapsed.fed is one luck dude,I am telling you..

That all may be true, for all we know Fed may be the luckiest tennis player of all time but that still doesn't answer my question, how was Murray winning (as in leading in the match) when in fact they were tied one set a piece?

Magnus · 01-16-2013, 12:08 AM

Fed managed to beat Murray/Djoker back to back, AGAIN. Where was the last time cheater was able to do that?

Povl Carstensen · 01-16-2013, 04:03 AM

I thought we had discussed this before, but I must have been dreaming...

Vrad · 01-16-2013, 04:15 AM

Of course it is hollow. He didn't have to face the giant slayer Rosol.

Other than that, not really. I mean he only beat the #1 and #3 players in the world, and the latter at home in a country starved of Wimbledon wins for over 7 decades.

Vrad · 01-16-2013, 04:18 AM

Must suck to be an irrational Rafa fan when your evidence for Rafa being better than Federer is that Rafa lost to Rosol in the 2nd round. SMH.

Wilander Fan · 01-16-2013, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by smoledman

No because he's 2-1 against Nadal @Wimbledon. Only the French Open is his white whale. Nadal on clay is his Moby Dick.

Thats a good analogy. I like to think of Fed as the bionic man and Nadal as the robot Sasquatch.

natalia · 01-16-2013, 04:38 AM

The OP must change his user name for tusharlovesattention

tennisaddict · 01-16-2013, 08:10 AM

Somebody get the OP a lollipop or candy to stop the crying.

mistik · 01-16-2013, 08:15 AM

2012 Wimbledon becomes a non important because of the roof fiasco.

kishnabe · 01-16-2013, 08:20 AM

If 2010 Nadal US Win is Hollow then yes, Federerer 2012 Wimbledon win is Hollow.

kalyan4fedever · 01-16-2013, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

Murray was playing better in the SUN,as the rain came it affected Murray's rhythm and his game just collapsed.fed is one luck dude,I am telling you..

Just like Murray getting lucked out by windy conditions at uso heh. Now That was seriously windy

edmondsm · 01-16-2013, 08:38 AM

Roof didn't do anything. He came back to beat Roddick after rain delays in 04'. It's what he does. He handles those situations very well.

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