Is Murray's 2013 Brisbane Open win hollow?

[Macro80]

Didn't have to play Fed, Novak or Rafa. Completely hollow.

[Fedex]

Originally Posted by Macro80

Didn't have to play Fed, Novak or Rafa. Completely hollow.

Murray's going to feel pretty hollow after playing in 40 degree heat tomorrow.

[nikdom]

Judy's been feeling pretty hollow for a long time.

[The Bawss]

Agreed. Hollow victory. Beat Grigor "loser" Dimitrov in the final.

[scineram]

Much like Rlph's 2010 Garros title.

[Peters]

Perhaps. But it's no more hollow than all the many titles Novak, Fed and Rafa have won without playing any of the other top 4.

So in the end it doesn't really mean anything. The top 4 can't always attend the very same tournaments.

[nadal_GOAT_king]

A win is a win, regardless.

[Prisoner of Birth]

This post is hollow. You didn't beat Federer, Nadal or Djokovic. You are hollow.

[axel89]

is this a troll thread or something Murray did what he had to do djokovic federer or nadal weren't even in the draw @_@

[batz]

Yes it was. All 25 of Murray's wind assisted titles are hollow.

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by batz

Yes it was. All 25 of Murray's wind assisted titles are hollow.

Don't be so hard on him batz, a good 10-15 or so weren't hollow or wind-assisted.

[Mainad]

Does anybody know what this thread is for?

Murray decided to play a warm-up tourney in Brisbane for match practice (he played there last year as well), Djokovic was off playing another warm-up tourney in Perth for the same reason, Federer was at home hitting a few balls on his practice court while Nadal was off sick!

You don't really think the 4 top players would all knock 7 bells out of each other playing in the same warm-up tourney ahead of a Grand Slam do you??

Can we all go home now?

[batz]

Originally Posted by Mainad

Does anybody know what this thread is for?

Murray decided to play a warm-up tourney in Brisbane for match practice (he played there last year as well), Djokovic was off playing another warm-up tourney in Perth for the same reason, Federer was at home hitting a few balls on his practice court while Nadal was off sick!

You don't really think the 4 top players would all knock 7 bells out of each other playing in the same warm-up tourney ahead of a Grand Slam do you??

Can we all go home now?

Yep - it's a variation on the theme of the 'Were Rafa/Roger's US/RG wins hollow' threads that you'll find further down the board.

[batz]

Originally Posted by The Bawss

Don't be so hard on him batz, a good 10-15 or so weren't hollow or wind-assisted.

You are such a fanboi. They were all wind assisted ah tells ya - even the indoor ones.

[batz]

Originally Posted by Fedex

Murray's going to feel pretty hollow after playing in 40 degree heat tomorrow.

It's forecast to be to be 34 when his match is being played. Humidity < 20%. Shouldn't be too bad!

[DolgoSantoro]

These threads feel pretty hollow to be honest.

As for the answer: No.

[Fedex]

Originally Posted by batz

You are such a fanboi. They were all wind assisted ah tells ya - even the indoor ones.

Murray has so many indoor fans.

[smoledman]

Originally Posted by scineram

Much like Rlph's 2010 Garros title.

Ralph won previous RG titles going through Federer & Djokovic multiple times. In fact he beat them back to back 3x(2006, 2007, 2008 ).

[kragster]

I would discount most of Murray's big wins as in most of his big wins , his opponent did not play better than him. For example in USO 2012, Djokovic did not play better than Murray and as a result of this luck, Murray won. Had Djokovic played better than Murray, he(Murray) would have lost.

I struggle to recollect the last title Murray won where his opponent played better than him For me there will always be a big asterisk next to Murray's wins.

[Mainad]

Originally Posted by kragster

I would discount most of Murray's big wins as in most of his big wins , his opponent did not play better than him. For example in USO 2012, Djokovic did not play better than Murray and as a result of this luck, Murray won. Had Djokovic played better than Murray, he(Murray) would have lost.

What on earth are you talking about? Are you trolling or something? How exactly does ANYBODY win a match against an opponent who is playing BETTER??

The reason someone wins a match is generally because they are playing BETTER than their opponent (unless the opponent pulls out of the match because of injury). It doesn't matter what the reasons may be why an opponent plays worse, if he plays worse, he loses the match. The better player in the match ALWAYS wins! It's that simple!

Originally Posted by kragster

I struggle to recollect the last title Murray won where his opponent played better than him For me there will always be a big asterisk next to Murray's wins.

In that case, there must be asterisks against ALL the wins of Djokovic, Federer and Nadal etc. because each time they won a match it was because they were the better player! None of them ever won a match against an opponent who played better than they did!