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Old 01-16-2013, 03:12 PM   #461
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What the hell happened to just going to college, getting a solid education, and play some collegiate sports? It seems like programs and perhaps the students themselves are more concerned with media exposure than anything.
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Old 01-16-2013, 04:57 PM   #462
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:27 PM   #463
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If you read the story, he may have manufactured the entire dead gf story to garner sympathy votes for the Heisman. At best, he perpetuated the dead GF lie.

The press is going to have to cover this now whether he went to sacrosanct ND, or not. This is a big story. Might be the headline of Drudge tomorrow AM.

And yes, ND was over ranked. They are a very good team but they just squeaked by several very marginal teams. Apparently, margin of victory is not a factor in BCS ratings which is rather stupid. I thought 'Bama would kick their butts and was not surprised by the outcome at all.

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Old 01-16-2013, 06:09 PM   #464
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If you read the story, it is obvious he manufactured the entire story to garner sympathy votes for the Heisman. What a jerk!

The press is going to have to cover this now whether he went to ND, or not.

And yes, ND was over ranked. They are a very good team but they just squeaked by several very marginal teams. Apparently, margin of victory is not a factor in BCS ratings which is rather stupid. I thought 'Bama would kick their butts and was not surprised by the outcome at all.


Whats bad is that ESPN is never the one who breaks a story like this. It was Deadspin Magazine for gods sake. Was it ESPN that broke the Reggie Bush scandal at USC? Nope it was Yahoo Sports and there wasnt anyone on earth more shocked about the roid usage by Arod and all the other cheaters in baseball than the guys covering baseball for ESPN. Peter Gammons could have been in the room while Arod, Bonds, Clemens, and McGuire all shot roids in each other and he still wouldnt have noticed it happening. ESPN is a joke if news is what youre lookin for
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:19 PM   #465
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I have been catching up with this story and it's just so fantastically crazy.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:29 PM   #466
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Why hasn't Kelley been fired yet and ND sanctioned? This bs lie game, covered up a **** and the victim killed herself in 2010, and he made a student tape practice on a metal lift 50ft in the air during a storm and he died also in 2010. Honestly this is becoming worse than Penn St. and so glad they got destroyed by Bama (and I hate every SEC school)
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:52 AM   #467
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Maybe he's gay. Family wants to meet the g/f (who is actually the b/f) so they kill off the fake g/f to take care of that problem - media gets a hold of the story (does no fact checking) and runs with it. He rolls with lies.

Or he's a total idiot who was duped and made up 'meeting' her in person to save face.

Or he's a total fraud.

Or all three.

This is funny though: http://teoing.tumblr.com/
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:09 AM   #468
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strangest story Ive EVER heard


the current theory is the gf was 'cooked up' to hide the fact that he was involved with another man.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:10 AM   #469
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Whats bad is that ESPN is never the one who breaks a story like this. It was Deadspin Magazine for gods sake. Was it ESPN that broke the Reggie Bush scandal at USC? Nope it was Yahoo Sports and there wasnt anyone on earth more shocked about the roid usage by Arod and all the other cheaters in baseball than the guys covering baseball for ESPN. Peter Gamwmons could have been in the room while Arod, Bonds, Clemens, and McGuire all shot roids in each other and he still wouldnt have noticed it happening. ESPN is a joke if news is what youre lookin for
good point, I cant think of one big sports story in the past 6 years broken by Espn.

Heck, the Tiger Woods story was broken by the national enquirer.
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I was about to post that. ND claims he's the victim of a hoax but if you read what he said there is no logical way he wasn't in on it.

Dude's a pathological liar. I thought the younger generation knew better than to perpetuate big lies on the internet - it never works. Wonder how it will affect his draft status? Dude is mental.
he claimed she visited him and he her.

his FAMILY claimed she spent time with them in Hawaii.

No WAY he wasnt in on it.
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:18 AM   #471
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I think he was in on it.

After the Deadspin story was published, it definitely looked like he was in on it from the start.

There are a few updates today on SB Nation that suggest maybe he was actually the victim of a hoax, but even then, he maybe could have been at the beginning, but ran with it once he found out.

No matter - ND and T'eo knew by December 26, 2012 that she didn't exist. Yet, in press leading up to the BCS Championship, he still referenced her.

So, he lied. The issue is how much he lied and over how long of period he lied. And what's really interesting to me is his motivation for lying which could be any number of things or combination of things.

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Old 01-17-2013, 07:50 AM   #472
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he claimed she visited him and he her.

his FAMILY claimed she spent time with them in Hawaii.

No WAY he wasnt in on it.
Yeah the dad said in a taped interview that he met the girl in person and she could be his future daughter in law.

LOL no fraud like whole family fraud
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:26 AM   #473
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I think he was in on it.

After the Deadspin story was published, it definitely looked like he was in on it from the start.

There are a few updates today on SB Nation that suggest maybe he was actually the victim of a hoax, but even then, he maybe could have been at the beginning, but ran with it once he found out.

No matter - ND and T'eo knew by December 6, 2012 that she didn't exist. Yet, in press leading up to the BCS Championship, he still referenced her.

So, he lied. The issue is how much he lied and over how long of period he lied. And what's really interesting to me is his motivation for lying which could be any number of things or combination of things.

I think it was to cover up the fact that he was gay and involved with another man. Possibly the fellow listed in the article.

Think about it, star player at big program, mormon, football player, samoan culture...doesnt look kindly on homosexuality.

whats a better cover than my-girlfriend-lives-far-away-and-is-sick-and-then-she-died-and-ill-never-love-anybody-else-again.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:32 AM   #474
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I think it was to cover up the fact that he was gay and involved with another man. Possibly the fellow listed in the article.

Think about it, star player at big program, mormon, football player, samoan culture...doesnt look kindly on homosexuality.

whats a better cover than my-girlfriend-lives-far-away-and-is-sick-and-then-she-died-and-ill-never-love-anybody-else-again.
That would be a reasonable explanation IF it is true. Unfortunately we won't know that unless he comes out says he is gay. I would actually repect him if he came out and said it and say that is why he set this whole thing up. But if goes with this story that he was duped and he didn't know the girl was fake even though anybody older than 10 years old would figure it out, that's pathetic.
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I think it was to cover up the fact that he was gay and involved with another man. Possibly the fellow listed in the article.

Think about it, star player at big program, mormon, football player, samoan culture...doesnt look kindly on homosexuality.

whats a better cover than my-girlfriend-lives-far-away-and-is-sick-and-then-she-died-and-ill-never-love-anybody-else-again.
Yeah, I've seen that thrown around, and don't think it's out of the realm of possiblity. But, if he was merely trying to cover up his sexuality, wasn't he going WAY overboard. Killing her off with luekemia in addition to suffering a car accident, referencing her multiple times in national media - couldn't he see that the bigger spectacle he made, the more attention it would draw, inevitably people would ask questions (especially after she died) and he could be "found out."

I don't know. I'd imagine if his sexuality were the issue he could be incredibly desperate given the context (Mormon, Catholic school, football player) and not really thinking clearly. But, still.

For once, I really have no idea, or really any opinion. It could be that he's gay and trying to cover that up. I could be that he was using it as PR for the Heisman. It could be that he's incredibly stupid, got embarrassed and kept up the charade. Or, it could be a combination of those things.

I generally don't believe he was duped from the beginning. But, again, I have no idea.

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I think coming out as a homosexual would have been the ultimate PR move to win the Heisman. Then if a writer voted for anyone else, the writer is a homophobe.

Give it a week, the truth will come out. If he invented the whole thing, it was not to cover homosexuality but simply to gain sympathy and then portray himself as a hero, soldiering on despite his tremendous personal loss. Win one for the Gipper is now Win one for the fake dead girlfriend.

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Story is getting stranger and stranger. Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia says he has met this girl in person and he was close with her family and Kekua's mother was operating her Twitter account. This was AFTER Notre Dame held a press conference that stated it all was an elaborate hoax.
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This guy's either the most gullible sap (not likely imho), a calculating Brian Bosworth type fit for the 'Oprah' crowd, or, the 'Metro Mark' Sanchez of LB's. This story is Supermarket Check-out Counter Magazine worthy tripe and he can go tell "his story" ...sob!... to a sympathetic, sexually frustrated audience on The View for all I care ...snooze...

I'm sure Oprah's people are already working the phones...

"Oh Lennay!...when I hear your soft voice lying here all alone .... I get those 'feelings' that I spoke about ..... right now you're making me sooo har..." *operator*: "please deposit 75 cents for the next 3 minutes..." ...Hello??....Lennay???...."


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(Mormon, Catholic school, football player)
Man, he had the best of both worlds....A Mormon can have multiple wives...and as a Catholic, you just confess and you're absolved of your sins.
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I think coming out as a homosexual would have been the ultimate PR move to win the Heisman. Then if a writer voted for anyone else, the writer is a homophobe.

Give it a week, the truth will come out. I think he invented the whole thing not to cover homosexuality but simply to gain sympathy and then portray himself as a hero, soldiering on despite his tremendous personal loss. Win one for the Gipper is now Win one for the fake dead girlfriend.
Not buying the victim of a hoax story at all myself.
He actually could've had all the sympathy strictly from his grandmother's (confirmed) death; he was evidently very close to his grandparents. There was no need to invent the fake girlfriend to add to the story. Talk about overplaying one's hand!
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