Robson vs Kvitova

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by PeteD

She lost 1st round here in '12, if she beats the young American Sloane Stephens next, then I have to believe Date-Krumm gotta run out of steam, I imagine Laura's ranking could go into seed range -- anybody know the math?

No, none of us know math now, not after watching this match.

[Duncan Bell]

Originally Posted by PeteD

She lost 1st round here in '12, if she beats the young American Sloane Stephens next, then I have to believe Date-Krumm gotta run out of steam, I imagine Laura's ranking could go into seed range -- anybody know the math?

If she did win next 2 and make QFs, she go up to about 25. That doesn't account for other players rising / falling though.

Think she'll struggle against Sloane though.

[PeteD]

Tennis players are good at math! 1 + 1 = 30

[Love Game]

Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

If Sloane Stephens flips out on those ball tosses, I'll be down for that.

true dat. might be a different story ..... except I almost think nothing was said because the crowd was 90% in favor of Laura ..... and if the same holds true in her match against stevens, then I'm not sure what w/b said

Kvitova did a few grimaces and eye rolls toward the end there, but her obnoxious screeching balanced it out ..... not sure whether sloane has any bad habits she can retaliate with, but shouldnt someone be able to serve without all those ball toss catches?

It begins to boarder on gamesmanship

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Unforced errors: Laura 41 ... Petra 51

[Rogael Naderer]

Originally Posted by natalia

Pity. Poor Petra, couldn't handle longer all the toss-cheating.

Well, Robson could handle Petrifying's SHRIEKING! And faces.

I really felt Robson just couldn't do it, but like Andy Murray at US Open was proved wrong to my delight.

[Love Game]

Originally Posted by natalia

Pity. Poor Petra, couldn't handle longer all the toss-cheating.

I heard one of the commies say that Judy Murray was in Laura's entourage ..... guess she's been having some influence on her training, too ..... can't imagine Judy would find all that toss-cheating acceptable!

[jaggy]

Just logged in to see that score, great job Loz

[PeteD]

Judy and Laura, I have no problem with that.

As for ball tosses, can we cut the child some slack when she's against a #2 Wimby champion 90 degrees overtime midnight in front of 14,000 delirious Auzzies?

[Duncan Bell]

Originally Posted by Cormorant

Live rankings here: http://fr.tennistemple.com/wta-classement-live/

Laura Toss is on her way.

Great website! Go on Heather!

[Hawkeye7]

My eyes are still bleeding. What a horrible, horrible, horrible match.

Congrats Laura, but that was terrible, even for WTA standards.

[Goosehead]

Originally Posted by Love Game

not until later this month, I think

anyway about 90% of the spectators want Robson to win

she is 19 nearly ..she WILL be 19yrs old on january 21st..

i could only see the first game of the match robson losing serve inc 2 df..looking at the comments seems the level of play wasnt too high..

however...whooooo-ooooo robbo wins 11-9 in the 3rd its a massive win for her i think.

[PeteD]

It's definitely massive since it brings her closer to the magic 32 ranking when she stops meeting players like Kvitova in the 2nd round.

[bluetrain4]

Originally Posted by Love Game

I heard one of the commies say that Judy Murray was in Laura's entourage ..... guess she's been having some influence on her training, too ..... can't imagine Judy would find all that toss-cheating acceptable!

I didn't watch the match. What is "toss-cheating"?

[Duncan Bell]

Laura was doing a lot of catching of her tosses. She wasn't cheating, her tossing was just poor.

[TheF1Bob]

Horrible match, reminded why I hate the WTA in the first place. Kvitova was a mess, Laura not that better.

Happy for Laura though, finally someone we can get behind.

[Love Game]

Originally Posted by bluetrain4

I didn't watch the match. What is "toss-cheating"?

it's a word I picked up from natalia (see above). could also be called "toss catch 'cheating.'" it's when someone steps up to the line as if to serve the ball, then interrupts their service motion by throwing the toss in the air and then catching it before serving. one commentator pointed out that laura was doing it excessively, even regularly twice with every other serve, varying when she did it just enough to avoid forming a pattern. a way of getting into the head of the opponent when done that much. and clearly it was getting into kvitova's head because she was reacting, such as exhaling and bending forward, touching her racket to the floor and leaning on it as if trying to catch her breath, while glancing up at laura through her eyebrows skeptically, etc., etc., etc. ..... IOW, it's a form of gamesmanship:

Gamesmanship is the use of dubious (although not technically illegal) methods to win or gain an advantage in a game or sport, without being able to be technically accused of violating any particular rule ... Wiki

Like the receiver raising their hand up, without any apparent reason, just as the server is going into his/her motion. That kind of thing. Except that Laura Robson did it A LOT last night.

[Mainad]

Originally Posted by Duncan Bell

Laura was doing a lot of catching of her tosses. She wasn't cheating, her tossing was just poor.

I've noticed this myself. She is young to be already getting the service yips. I hope she and her coach get it sorted out before it becomes too much of a problem!

I'm sure she wasn't doing it deliberately. How many missed ball tosses is a player allowed before a fault is called on the serve?

[chippy17]

Originally Posted by Mainad

I've noticed this myself. She is young to be already getting the service yips. I hope she and her coach get it sorted out before it becomes too much of a problem!

I'm sure she wasn't doing it deliberately. How many missed ball tosses is a player allowed before a fault is called on the serve?

I do not think deliberate as she was doing it at Olympics and US quite a lot

[Love Game]

Originally Posted by Mainad

I've noticed this myself. She is young to be already getting the service yips. I hope she and her coach get it sorted out before it becomes too much of a problem!

I'm sure she wasn't doing it deliberately. How many missed ball tosses is a player allowed before a fault is called on the serve?

that's just it. it's not against the rules, as far as i know. remember when ivanovic was doing it? she got flack for it, and i believe she still does it sometimes, but it takes effort and working on it to stop doing it .... which ivanovic hardly ever does it anymore as far as i know, but there was a while there when she was doing it so much that it became a problem.

[ruerooo]

Originally Posted by Love Game

anyway about 90% of the spectators want Robson to win

Oh.

That's going to be annoying when Sloane plays her.