Djokovic has a pretty cake draw...

[stringertom]

A seeding sequence of 31, 15, 5 & 4 is not cake in and of itself...Djok may make it seem like cake bcoz he has very favorable h2h vs almost everyone on tour and this is a surface and venue he prefers.

Hopefully, Wawrinka didn't peak one round too early...play like his form from last night and he has a better chance than normal vs Djok. Still, the #1 should prevail in 3 or 4 good sets.

[Tammo]

The thing Wawa needs to do is S@V like Steps. Steps was throwing Djokovic off, and overall played very well.

[stringertom]

Originally Posted by Tammo

The thing Wawa needs to do is S@V like Steps. Steps was throwing Djokovic off, and overall played very well.

Wish there were more S/Vers to challenge him...Wawa probably not the best candidate as his service motion doesn't naturally "throw" him into the court for that all-important first stride towards the net.

[Hood_Man]

I'm not sure what would count as a tough draw for a world #1 at the peak of his powers? In order to get to #1 you have to beat everyone consistently on the big stages, which makes beating everyone consistently on the big stages look easier than it probably is.

[Gonzo_style]

It's a conspiracy against our God Roger...

[veroniquem]

Fed has a pretty cake draw too. He has an inexperienced youngster followed by Kohl who's gonna hand him the match nicely (after needing a tough 5 setter to beat Raonic) followed by probably Gasquet who's gonna crumble mentally (on cue). How is that hard?? Wawa is ranked higher than Kohl, there is not much difference in level between the 2. Berd is considerably more dangerous than Gasquet (gasp, or even Tsonga who is ranked below Berd and seems less sharp than Berd by far judging from the early rounds). The only difficulty Fed has is Murray but Murray is gonna be massively worn out by the obligatory marathon clash with Delpo (and that's if he survives it at all). Ferrer may be ranked 1 spot lower than Murray but he actually had a higher winning % in 2012 than Murray and he wears you down on every point no matter what. I say: Fed has nothing to complain about. Ferrer has it much tougher with in form Nishi and Almagro to go through before even getting to Djoko.

[Feather]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Fed has a pretty cake draw too. He has an inexperienced youngster followed by Kohl who's gonna hand him the match nicely (after needing a tough 5 setter to beat Raonic) followed by probably Gasquet who's gonna crumble mentally (on cue). How is that hard?? Wawa is ranked higher than Kohl, there is not much difference in level between the 2. Berd is considerably more dangerous than Gasquet (gasp, or even Tsonga who is ranked below Berd and seems less sharp than Berd by far judging from the early rounds). The only difficulty Fed has is Murray but Murray is gonna be massively worn out by the obligatory marathon clash with Delpo (and that's if he survives it at all). Ferrer may be ranked 1 spot lower than Murray but he actually had a higher winning % in 2012 than Murray and he wears you down on every point no matter what. I say: Fed has nothing to complain about. Ferrer has it much tougher with in form Nishi and Almagro to go through before even getting to Djoko.

You are the most hypocrite I have seen in this forum. Seriously, one one hand you would say that ONLY Murray has some chances of beating Djokovic, if Murray doesn't reach the final then it will be totally one sided and all. Now you compare the success percentage of Ferrer and Murray and imply that there is not much of a difference between them for the other probable SF players, Roger and Djokovic. I even wonder whether your account is handled by two persons

You say that Tomic is the exciting personality, he is the one to look forward and all blah blah blah and now he became an inexperienced youngster for Federer lol

Regarding Tsonga and Berdych, do you know that Tsonga has blown Nadal, Murray and Djokovic off the court in the same plexicushion surface on which they are playing AO 2013?

If you think Davydenko - Tomic - Raonic - Tsonga - Murray line up is not tough, there is nothing to argue about. Carry on with your trolling

[Fiji]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Ferrer may be ranked 1 spot lower than Murray but he actually had a higher winning % in 2012 than Murray and he wears you down on every point no matter what. I say: Fed has nothing to complain about. Ferrer has it much tougher with in form Nishi and Almagro to go through before even getting to Djoko.

Murray is a slam winner, 8 time masters series winner, Olympic gold winner(by beating Djokovic and Federer back to back) who just beat Djokovic at the USO. He also took him to 5 at the AO in 2012. The last two times they met at the slams, it was long, drenching 5 setters....

Can't compare him with Ferrer who has never been close to beating Djokovic at a slam. He can only dream of taking Djokovic to 5 at a slam.

There is no comparison. There is a reason why they call Ferrer a vulture in another forum. Murray is a future multiple slam winner and #1. Ferrer is just a vulture. He needed to avoid all the top players and play a challenger player in the final of Bercy to win his sole masters series.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Feather

You are the most hypocrite I have seen in this forum. Seriously, one one hand you would say that ONLY Murray has some chances of beating Djokovic, if Murray doesn't reach the final then it will be totally one sided and all. Now you compare the success percentage of Ferrer and Murray and imply that there is not much of a difference between them for the other probable SF players, Roger and Djokovic. I even wonder whether your account is handled by two persons

You say that Tomic is the exciting personality, he is the one to look forward and all blah blah blah and now he became an inexperienced youngster for Federer lol

Regarding Tsonga and Berdych, do you know that Tsonga has blown Nadal, Murray and Djokovic off the court in the same plexicushion surface on which they are playing AO 2013?

If you think Davydenko - Tomic - Raonic - Tsonga - Murray line up is not tough, there is nothing to argue about. Carry on with your trolling

You're just now figuring that out, Feather? Lol. Vero is full of double standards and hypocrisy. I usually either skim her posts or point and laugh at them. She knows Fed's draw is tougher, but since she hates him with a passion, she will defend her silly point until the cows come home.

[librarysteg]

What's the realistic line-up (meaning the seeding would logically allow for it) that people think would have been fairer for both the #1 and #2 seed?

[Fiji]

Djokovic is relieved to avoid Murray until the final. Otherwise he would play the third 5 setter in a row against the Brit. Now he gets the vulture.

[Dedans Penthouse]

Line 'em up and let's compare the two without the fanboy sniping.

Barring any upsets:

Who's in front of Federer: _____ _____ _____ _____

Who's in front of Djokovic: _____ _____ _____ _____

[The Bawss]

Originally Posted by Dedans Penthouse

Line 'em up and let's compare the two without the fanboy sniping.

Barring any upsets:

Who's in front of Federer: _____ _____ _____ _____

Who's in front of Djokovic: _____ _____ _____ _____

Federer has Raonic who is hot and dangerous with a huge serve and forehand. Murray is always tricky for Fed not sure why as he has no weapons. Djokovic has a load of losers and chokers ahead of him. That explains this thread.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Feather

If you think Davydenko - Tomic - Raonic - Tsonga - Murray line up is not tough, there is nothing to argue about. Carry on with your trolling

I don't believe it will be Raonic. I think Kohl will make it through. Kohl is not a tougher opponent than Wawa. Raonic is ranked 15 anyway, Wawa 17. The difference is not huge . Tsonga had a stunning run in 2008, yeah, that's 5 years ago. What has he done recently? And I also believe Gasquet has an excellent chance of beating him. Berd is ranked higher than either of those guys: FACT. As for Tomic, he's like Harrison, a young hopeful. He has great potential but is still ranked lower than Stepanek and still has everything to prove.
Yes, Fed has Murray. Djoko had him last year and no one was whining so much about it. Fed got lucky with the quarter this time (Berd and Delpo are by far the toughest quarter opponents and on form as well). Djoko got lucky with the semi. Fair enough.

[smoledman]

Berdych will take him out in the QF.

[Fiji]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Yes, Fed has Murray. Djoko had him last year and no one was whining so much about it.

Federer had Nadal last year in the AO SF which is even worse for him.

Last year the SF were even.

With Nadal's sabbatical, Djokovic has been getting the easier SF at the slams.

Too bad Del Potro is not the #4 seed then both SF would be competitive. Instead it's waste of space Ferrer in the SF. One of the top 2 gets a non competitive SF.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Fiji

Federer had Nadal last year in the AO SF which is even worse for him.

Some draws are better than others. Djoko had the worse draw at WTF. He still didn't lose a match. Maybe there's a reason why he's #1 (other than draws).

[Fiji]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Maybe there's a reason why he's #1 (other than draws).

Because he is 25 while Federer is 31.

25 year old Federer would dominate the tour nowadays.

[Prisoner of Birth]

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Some draws are better than others. Djoko had the worse draw at WTF. He still didn't lose a match. Maybe there's a reason why he's #1 (other than draws).

The WTF draw is debatable. Would you rather face Murray in the round-robins or in the Semifinal? Yeah, that's what I thought.