who benches more, Serena or Fed?

[joeri888]

The thing with bench pressing is That a lot depends on how often you actually do this particular exercise. Not sure it gives you anything useful.

[SystemicAnomaly]

Originally Posted by Tennusdude

The word some people are using is STEROIDS. Of course the WTA will never speak about it since without Serena you have at best a ho hum tour.

There are other possibilities as well. Human Growth Hormone (hGH) injections or supplementation is one. Another possibility is that Serena naturally produces high levels of hGH and/or testosterone.

There are quite few substances, other than anabolic steroids, that can elevate testosterone levels. Androstenedione (Andro) is one such substance. This supplement was very popular in the 1990s in the MLB (by home run king, Mark McGwire, and others). It has since been banned by the NFL, MLB, IOC and other sports governing bodies. I am not certain that it has been banned or addressed by the NBA, ITF or the USTA. In some areas/countries, Andro has been "legally defined" as an anabolic steroid even tho' it might not chemically actually be an anabolic steroid.

Since the ban of Andro by various governing bodies/agencies, a number of other designer testosterone-boosting supplements have hit the market. Some of these may actually be more potent/effective than Andro and may not (yet) be illegal or banned. One significant problem with Andro and similar testosterone-boosting products is that they can produce profound effects on mood, not unlike 'roid rage.

The Serena temper that we have seen on more than one occasion, can very well be a sign of elevated testosterone levels. I have personally experienced this pseudo 'roid rage with my limited experimentation with Andro supplments in the 90s. It produced a very marked increase in intensity and aggressiveness in my tennis game. It also produce a mild case of acne (in my 40s!). However, when I realized that it also produced a hair-trigger temper flareup every once in a while, I decided to stop using it.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by dafinch

Half a foot taller? Uh, no...

She's 5'7. He's 6'1. That's half a foot.

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

She's 5'7. He's 6'1. That's half a foot.

Serena is actually 5 ft 9.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious

Serena is actually 5 ft 9.

That's what she claims. But she's not.

[smoledman]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

That's what she claims. But she's not.

Any evidence she's only 5'7"?

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by smoledman

Any evidence she's only 5'7"?

She was listed as being 5'7.5" in her US Open profile when she took the court in one of her matches. She herself said she was 5'8" on her Twitter some time back and then changed to 5'9" and now some sites even have her listed as 5'10".

Now they got Sharapova listed at 6'3" even though she's shorter than Andy Roddick who is 6'2".

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by DRII

I'm leaning towards Serena just being a genetic oddity/anomaly etc; theres no way the WTA would or could let such an obvious case (in terms of aesthetics) go under the radar.

Most likely she's just blessed physically (strength wise)...

and yet, Stosur....

[SystemicAnomaly]

Originally Posted by Tony48

Does Fed bench at all? He has like zero muscle tone.

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

She can build herself up as much as she wants but she'll never have the natural physical strength of a man of equal size. Federer is naturally bigger than Serena. Half a foot taller and much more natural physical strength and bone density. Bigger hands, bigger wrists, just bigger and stronger all around. He doesn't do any real weight lifting nor should he. Put him in a serous weight training routine for 6 months and he'll be benching 250lbs at least.

Altho' you don't see it in his arms, he does show some evidence of muscle tone in his shoulders, torso/core (chest and abs) and legs. His body fat % is considerably lower than Serena's. Serena's overall size of a combination of muscle size and a higher fat content (her ample mams are clear evidence of that body fat content).

Roger undoubtedly has a fairly high % of fast-twitch muscles fibers (both type IIa and type IIx). These type II fibers produce power (speed strength). They do not necessarily need to be huge to produce power. Bodybuilders will often have large muscles and can lift/press large amount of weight but will not necessarily be able to produce a lot of power. For instance they might not be able to throw a ball very hard/fast or sprint very fast either. Powerlifters or Olympic weightlifters, OTOH, have developed both power and size (but not always definition).

I may have it wrong but I thinks that type IIa fibers can be developed to increase muscle size significantly. OTOH, type IIx fibers (and the slow-twitch, type I fibers) do not increase much in size. I'm certain that this is true for type I fibers, but not absolutely sure if I've got it right for both type II fiber types.

Serena probably has a decent amount of fast-twitch fibers but her muscle fiber profile is probably not the same as Roger's. Even if she could bench press more than Roger, it seems unlikely that she can produce quite as much leg power, core power or shoulder power as Roger.

[Mike Sams]

At the same time, Lindsay Davenport is listed at 6'3 despite being the same height or shorter than the 6'1" Federer.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

She was listed as being 5'7.5" in her US Open profile when she took the court in one of her matches. She herself said she was 5'8" on her Twitter some time back and then changed to 5'9" and now some sites even have her listed as 5'10".

Now they got Sharapova listed at 6'3" even though she's shorter than Andy Roddick who is 6'2".

She looks atleast 5'8 in that picture.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

At the same time, Lindsay Davenport is listed at 6'3 despite being the same height or shorter than the 6'1" Federer.

And Serena here looks 5'9. She's definitely not 5'7. Atleast 5'8, no lesser than that.

[Mike Sams]

Originally Posted by SystemicAnomaly

Altho' you don't see it in his arms, he does show some evidence of muscle tone in his shoulders, torso/core (chest and abs) and legs. His body fat % is considerably lower than Serena's. Serena's overall size of a combination of muscle size and a higher fat content (her ample mams are clear evidence of that body fat content).

Roger undoubtedly has a fairly high % of fast-twitch muscles fibers (both type IIa and type IIx). These type II fibers produce power (speed strength). They do not necessarily need to be huge to produce power. Bodybuilders will often have large muscles and can lift/press large amount of weight but will not necessarily be able to produce a lot of power. For instance they might not be able to throw a ball very hard/fast or sprint very fast either. Powerlifters or Olympic weightlifters, OTOH, have developed both power and size (but not always definition).

I may have it wrong but I thinks that type IIa fibers can be developed to increase muscle size significantly. OTOH, type IIx fibers (and the slow-twitch, type I fibers) do not increase much in size. I'm certain that this is true for type I fibers, but not absolutely sure if I've got it right for both type II fiber types.

Serena probably has a decent amount of fast-twitch fibers but her muscle fiber profile is probably not the same as Roger's. Even if she could bench press more than Roger, it seems unlikely that she can produce quite as much leg power, core power or shoulder power as Roger.

How much does she claim she can bench? Just remember that big muscles doesn't mean extra strength. When she actually is standing next to the likes of Federer and Nadal, you can see she's not looking imposing at all. She's small compared to them. And these guys don't exactly live in the weight room.

[SystemicAnomaly]

^ As I indicated/implied in that post, how much Serena or Roger can bench press has very little to do with how much power they produce.

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[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

That's what she claims. But she's not.

Nope, she is about 5 ft 9.


Her weight is not accurate IMO.

[Valdez737]

anybody who seen Serena up close knows she is much smaller then Roger. She is short and stocky she only looks so big cause of the perspective of camera thrs noting really thr to compare her too. Look for a pic of roger and serena and roger and sharapova. Pova is way bigger looking

[jokinla]

Serena of course, she couldn't be any more obvious with her love of pez's.

[jokinla]

Originally Posted by Valdez737

anybody who seen Serena up close knows she is much smaller then Roger. She is short and stocky she only looks so big cause of the perspective of camera thrs noting really thr to compare her too. Look for a pic of roger and serena and roger and sharapova. Pova is way bigger looking

Serena is shorter than both Fed and Shriekapova, but she has bigger arms and legs than both of them, thus she is bigger.

[dafinch]

Originally Posted by Mike Sams

That's what she claims. But she's not.

Oh, well, I'm glad you cleared that UP for us, lol... I've seen 5 foot 10, as well, 5 foot 7 is a joke. Actually, the picture YOU posted shows the difference is nowhere NEAR a "half a foot."

[dafinch]

Originally Posted by jokinla

Serena is shorter than both Fed and Shriekapova, but she has bigger arms and legs than both of them, thus she is bigger.

Dubious logic, not to mention, irrelevant.