Novak is an alien,never gets tired.

[Fiji]

What do you think?

DOPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Because Cvac had never in his career been able to pull off these physical matches on a regular basis in entire career until now. he either retired or dragged his tired, wheezing self around the court until the end. His sudden major increase in stamina is very, very suspicious.

And you watch him show not one sign of fatigue in his next match. You won't even know he ever played this marathon come tomorrow.

I get that argument, and I agree it might be somewhat suspicious, but Vero has made a good counter-argument about this, that Novak ha played very long matches before the last two years, that he could have won...

The brother of my brother in law found out he was gluten intolerant in his 40s and he felt a lot better, so I do think that could make a difference. Add an improved mentality.

Also, remember that point he conceded to Nadal at RG last year?, it was very good sportsmanship on his part, so that makes me doubt also he would be doping.

[President]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Also, remember that point he conceded to Nadal at RG last year?, it was very good sportsmanship on his part, so that makes me doubt also he would be doping.

Lance Armstrong raised hundreds of millions of dollars to fight cancer, and he was doping.

[FedererDropShot]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

100 % agreed....The unspectacular player won.

+1

10StanWawrinkas.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by President

Lance Armstrong raised hundreds of millions of dollars to fight cancer, and he was doping.

Exactly. To use one instance of a player conceding a point in a match as a reason why said player would not be doping is ridiculous. For that one point he gave away there are many points and entire matches(like last night)he never would have won wiithout the doping. The peds rule every single time.

[Ginger ninja]

I've always been suspicious of djoker following last year's australian open semi and final. No matter how fit you are, I just don't believe you can do 11 hrs + of top quality grinding tennis without 'enhancement'.

[smoledman]

Originally Posted by Ginger ninja

I've always been suspicious of djoker following last year's australian open semi and final. No matter how fit you are, I just don't believe you can do 11 hrs + of top quality grinding tennis without 'enhancement'.

Exactly. I believe that most of the Spanish & Serbian players are doping fiends.

[onehandbh]

I think it's fair to question if both were doping.
Not just the winner. Korda was on roids
and he was rail thin.

Regardless of whether or not he doped
Djoker played a gutsy match and had
that "I expect to win and every time
you hit a good shot it was lucky and
I can't believe I missed such an easy
shot (no matter how difficult it actually
was) attitude that champions often have
throughout the 5th set.

I tried going gluten free last month and my
bench press went from 130lbs to 525 and I went
from being winded at the end of a three mile run to
being able to run a 26.2 mile marathon while giving
a friend a piggy back ride the whole time. I felt
amazing. Never got winded. I eventually started
eating more gluten again, though, because my friends
started accusing me of doping and taking PEDs.

[zebedee]

It doesn't take an Egghead to see that Djokovic will march on to the final in great shape. Nothing much changes in tennis these days.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by President

Lance Armstrong raised hundreds of millions of dollars to fight cancer, and he was doping.

Not the same. We're talking about what you're willing to do to win. Novak didn't even take a point he could have taken and not even been called a cheater for it.

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Exactly. To use one instance of a player conceding a point in a match as a reason why said player would not be doping is ridiculous. For that one point he gave away there are many points and entire matches(like last night)he never would have won wiithout the doping. The peds rule every single time.

One is a fact, the other speculation. I'm not saying it proves he doesn't dope, but it would indicate he doesn't imo.

[Ginger ninja]

Originally Posted by smoledman

Exactly. I believe that most of the Spanish & Serbian players are doping fiends.

I'll go a little further on this. My old boy is a prominent professor of medicine - he said what djokovic did was, in his view, impossible. He became a djoker sceptic overnight. For what it's worth he thinks Murray is also at it.

[davced1]

Originally Posted by librarysteg

Why do the doping allegations only go one way in a match like this? From my view, Stan was only slightly more fatigued than Novak. If Novak was still fresh as daisy at the end, I think Stan had only dropped a petal or two at most.

Because Djokovic has a far more physical playing style?

[davced1]

Originally Posted by Ginger ninja

I'll go a little further on this. My old boy is a prominent professor of medicine - he said what djokovic did was, in his view, impossible. He became a djoker sceptic overnight. For what it's worth he thinks Murray is also at it.

Everything is POssible.

[Ginger ninja]

Originally Posted by davced1

Everything is POssible.

Like winning the tour de France 7 times.............no wait!

[GoodVibrations]

I love aliens.

[JustBob]

Let's see how he does against Berdych and then (possibly) Ferrer. If he gets pushed against these 2 and then proceeds to win a long 5 set final then, well...

[Rocky89]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

I get that argument, and I agree it might be somewhat suspicious, but Vero has made a good counter-argument about this, that Novak ha played very long matches before the last two years, that he could have won...

The brother of my brother in law found out he was gluten intolerant in his 40s and he felt a lot better, so I do think that could make a difference. Add an improved mentality.

Also, remember that point he conceded to Nadal at RG last year?, it was very good sportsmanship on his part, so that makes me doubt also he would be doping.

While I agree that it would make a difference to how you feel, no way would it improve your stamina and performance by 100% overnight as was the case with Djokovic.

[Surecatch]

IMO, these reasonings that Nole' is "obviously" doping are ridiculous. The guy has improved his stamina...probably has worked his *** off to achieve that. I'm no fan of Novak, but equating improvement in stamina to obvious doping is stupid. Aren't you guys fans of this game? Sometimes I wonder when I see how quickly accusations that are a true blight on the sport are thrown around here instead of acknowledging something positive about the game's best players.

Sheesh.

[90's Clay]

Originally Posted by Surecatch

IMO, these reasonings that Nole' is "obviously" doping are ridiculous. The guy has improved his stamina...probably has worked his *** off to achieve that. I'm no fan of Novak, but equating improvement in stamina to obvious doping is stupid. Aren't you guys fans of this game? Sometimes I wonder when I see how quickly accusations that are a true blight on the sport are thrown around here instead of acknowledging something positive about the game's best players.

Sheesh.

Thats the way Armstrong fans would you use to talk.. I see ALOT of similarities between Lance and Nole here.

Fitness is one thing.. Energizer bunny, unlimited endurance is another

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Rocky89

While I agree that it would make a difference to how you feel, no way would it improve your stamina and performance by 100% overnight as was the case with Djokovic.

I don't really know. It might. Plus, did he really have that much less stamina or did he often just give up?.