What more proof do we need that Nole is doping!

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by kragster

After 3 exhausting and grueling matches, especially the one against Ryan Harrison, he is able to outlast Stan the man, widely known as the fittest guy in the history of the sport. And not just outlast him but beat him in a fairly one sided final set.

If this is not incontrovertible evidence that he is doping, then I don't know what is.

Credit to KineticChain for finding the picture first.

[Duncan Bell]

Cvac has a second bladder. 2.0 and all that, he's an upgraded machine.

[BreakPoint]

Originally Posted by SoBad

Yeah, Nadal would have won more slams if his joke of a "rival" hadn't been all high on the bad stuff over his entire career.

Yeah, that "joke of a rival" is still #2 in the world at the age of 32 and is still a threat at every Slam, while Nadal is already retired and sitting in a wheelchair in his mid-20's.

[dimeaxe]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

If Federer was actually doping, Nadal would have ZERO wins against him.

Oh, and Nadal has only 11 Slams, not 17.

Federer has ex-ATP doctor in his team since 2003, that's why he's suspicuous.

[Tafmatch]

All topplayers are suspicious imo, but some more than others. I would be least surprised if Djoko was caught and after him Federer. For some reason I don't believe Nadal really is doping, but that's probably naive...

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

They do not blood test nearly enough. I mean, the guy with the biggest sudden increase in stamina I have ever seen just said that he has not been blood tested in 7 months. The players who complain about the testing being too strict are just plain liars.

for once, we agree on something.

[hersito]

A few weeks ago on a radio show I heard a recently retired to 20 player, what he said was that probably a lot of players are doping but only the ones 100 and above in the ranking, he said that when you cross the 100 rank you get tested often and that if you start winning tournaments he saw it impossible to dope and play, he also said that he didn't think that there were silent bans. He was very open talking about it and it didn't seem that he was lying. He also said something like it didn't matter how much you doped, that you could be the incredible hulk but if you don't have the shots, the technic and you don't train a lot there is no way you can be a to 10.

[zagor]

Originally Posted by kragster

After 3 exhausting and grueling matches, especially the one against Ryan Harrison, he is able to outlast Stan the man, widely known as the fittest guy in the history of the sport. And not just outlast him but beat him in a fairly one sided final set.

If this is not incontrovertible evidence that he is doping, then I don't know what is.

I knew Novak was doping ever since his 5 set win over Stepanek in 2007 USO, according to the ladies Radek's stamina is legendary yet Novak outlasted him no problem.

[Towser83]

Originally Posted by zagor

I knew Novak was doping ever since his 5 set win over Stepanek in 2007 USO, according to the ladies Radek's stamina is legendary yet Novak outlasted him no problem.

haha brilliant

[Speranza]

Originally Posted by SoBad

Another red herring thread to divert attention from the 17-slam doping cheater.

My, my... this I expected not from you SoBad. For one quite witty and eloquent, although with a deep rooted dislike (almost hatred?) of Federer, it suits you not to lessen his 14 sl-, sorry, 17 slams with such accusations

After all, whatever you type here to antagonize Federer fans, you know perfectly well that out of your hero and Federer, the most suspect regarding doping would be the former. At least in general opinion. We could then discuss it with facts over the last several years.

No matter how much you'd love for Roger to be more suspect (oh, and hated), you can fool everyone else in whichever manner you prefer, but in life you cannot fool yourself.

TTFN.

[BreakPoint]

Originally Posted by dimeaxe

Federer has ex-ATP doctor in his team since 2003, that's why he's suspicuous.

Since when have ATP doctors helped players dope? Meanwhile, it's well known that Spanish doctors help athletes dope. And both Nadal and Ferrer have Spanish doctors.

[dimeaxe]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

Since when have ATP doctors helped players dope? Meanwhile, it's well known that Spanish doctors help athletes dope. And both Nadal and Ferrer have Spanish doctors.

Because they know how to cover things, that's why.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by hersito

A few weeks ago on a radio show I heard a recently retired to 20 player, what he said was that probably a lot of players are doping but only the ones 100 and above in the ranking, he said that when you cross the 100 rank you get tested often and that if you start winning tournaments he saw it impossible to dope and play, he also said that he didn't think that there were silent bans. He was very open talking about it and it didn't seem that he was lying. He also said something like it didn't matter how much you doped, that you could be the incredible hulk but if you don't have the shots, the technic and you don't train a lot there is no way you can be a to 10.

That's what I like about tennis. Doping or not, you got to have the skills. It's not all about strength or endurance. There is no substitute for talent.

[nikdom]

This is so rich coming from Nadal fans.

The Onion couldn't be more ironic even if they tried.

[FederErizeD]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

That's what I like about tennis. Doping or not, you got to have the skills. It's not all about strength or endurance. There is no substitute for talent.

you would be right if today's tennis was only about talent .

unfortunately, it's not anymore .. it's become a matter of strength and endurance with all those pushers out there ..

no matter how much talent u r full of, u won't stand a chance against a pusher if u yourself lack the ability of pushing .

[zagor]

Originally Posted by nikdom

This is so rich coming from Nadal fans.

The Onion couldn't be more ironic even if they tried.

The OP is a Novak fan (in addition to being a Nadal fan) and he's clearly being sarcastic.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by FederErizeD

you would be right if today's tennis was only about talent .

unfortunately, it's not anymore .. it's become a matter of strength and endurance with all those pushers out there ..

no matter how much talent u r full of, u won't stand a chance against a pusher if u yourself lack the ability of pushing .

Total BS. Djokovic is not a pusher at all btw. Only on TT, the definition of pusher is: "a guy who doesn't win every point with his serve". Djoko has superlative defensive AND offensive skills. And only on TT, Fed's limitations in terms of defensive skills become the utmost quality for a tennis player to the point where players who DO have superlative defensive skills should be somehow banned to exercise them. Right. This is such an outrageous point of view for any tennis fan that it gets really hard to take the Fed worshippers seriously as genuine fans of the sport itself. (You've been federized, all right, time to find an antidote to the brainwashing...)

[TennisLovaLova]

Please answer honestly: you really dont find federer's tennis more fun and incredible to watch than djoker's?
The way he builds his offense also which djoker has no idea about btw is also something special dont you think?

And yes: you're being federized

Originally Posted by veroniquem

Total BS. Djokovic is not a pusher at all btw. Only on TT, the definition of pusher is: "a guy who doesn't win every point with his serve". Djoko has superlative defensive AND offensive skills. And only on TT, Fed's limitations in terms of defensive skills become the utmost quality for a tennis player to the point where players who DO have superlative defensive skills should be somehow banned to exercise them. Right. This is such an outrageous point of view for any tennis fan that it gets really hard to take the Fed worshippers seriously as genuine fans of the sport itself. (You've been federized, all right, time to find an antidote to the brainwashing...)

[West Coast Ace]

Originally Posted by SoBad

The explanation generally accepted by the public is that he did not want to get humiliated by Safin. However, the visa denials issued to Federer over the years cite sanctions from RNAA (the Russian National Anti-doping Agency), as well as reports from hotels that refused accommodations due to personal character and manner of behaviour.

And Nadal has never been to Moscow because there are no good gambas restaurants, no?

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

Please answer honestly: you really dont find federer's tennis more fun and incredible to watch than djoker's?


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Emphatic no. Fed becomes an UE machine as soon as he's pushed and he doesn't have any plan B.