John Isner, ace machine watch Australian Open 2013

[Doubles]

Originally Posted by ark_28

The tournament is missing John that is for sure! Anytime you can hit serves at 148 with bounce and smack groudies so hard you are dangerous if he found his form from IW last year or Davis Cup in Switzerland or Monte Carlo he would have been close to unbeatable.

The tournament is by no means missing John. If John had entered, he would have eventually run into Delpo where he would have been destroyed in straight set, and we would have been robber of watching Tim Smyczek. When are you going to get this through your head: aces mean next to nothing when the rest of your game is below average. If he's this good, why does he only have 5 titles? Why is his career record 165-109? Why hasn't he won a slam yet? Isner deserves to be a pro, but you're VASTLY overrating him.

[ark_28]

Originally Posted by Doubles

The tournament is by no means missing John. If John had entered, he would have eventually run into Delpo where he would have been destroyed in straight set, and we would have been robber of watching Tim Smyczek. When are you going to get this through your head: aces mean next to nothing when the rest of your game is below average. If he's this good, why does he only have 5 titles? Why is his career record 165-109? Why hasn't he won a slam yet? Isner deserves to be a pro, but you're VASTLY overrating him.

The courts are playing very quick this year did you see how well Del Po serving today? 4 aces to close out the match!! Sure he's a great player and a contender but he would have had a mighty tough time getting John's serve back in play on that surface.

Serve and huge forehand combo on a quicker court and it's job done! Querrey said these are the quickest courts he has played on in a Grand Slam!

[Relinquis]

Originally Posted by dominikk1985

wrong era for him. his serve and FH are very powerful but his movement, BH and ROS is lacking.

I think on the fast 90s grass he could have won wimbledon. I think isner is one of the best servers ever, probably better than pete (2nd highest hold percentage ever despite the conditions of the courts).

of course he would still not be the favorite over pete or becker since those were much better players but I don't think his overall package is worse than krajicek or goran.

goran ivanisivic, a big server, didn't dominate the 90s and he had a much better ground and volley game than isner.

pros get used to fast serves and can adjust. isner is very poor apart from his serve. you need to break the other guy's serve to win matches.

also, goran was healthy in his 20s. isner is already falling apart unfortunately. would have been nice to see him play AO for variety's sake.

[Doubles]

Originally Posted by ark_28

The courts are playing very quick this year did you see how well Del Po serving today? 4 aces to close out the match!! Sure he's a great player and a contender but he would have had a mighty tough time getting John's serve back in play on that surface.

Serve and huge forehand combo on a quicker court and it's job done! Querrey said these are the quickest courts he has played on in a Grand Slam!

lololololol Delpo would beat Isner 9 times out of 10. He's a slam winner. Isner has one masters final.

[ark_28]

Originally Posted by Doubles

lololololol Delpo would beat Isner 9 times out of 10. He's a slam winner. Isner has one masters final.

Federer and Djokovic are both multiple Grand Slam champions but that did not stop John doing the business against them last year! Del Po would have given John a good test no doubt he's a class player but it would be tough for anyone to withstand the barrage of 140 mph serves on these courts which are playing with more pace than previous years!

[Doubles]

Originally Posted by ark_28

Federer and Djokovic are both multiple Grand Slam champions but that did not stop John doing the business against them last year! Del Po would have given John a good test no doubt he's a class player but it would be tough for anyone to withstand the barrage of 140 mph serves on these courts which are playing with more pace than previous years!

He has wins over both of them, but he can't keep it together for an entire tournament. How is this difficult for you to understand? Delpo beat fed and Nadal in back to back matches. When has John done that?

[ark_28]

Originally Posted by Doubles

He has wins over both of them, but he can't keep it together for an entire tournament. How is this difficult for you to understand? Delpo beat fed and Nadal in back to back matches. When has John done that?

Thats only happened twice ever to be fair!! Other time was Djokovic at the US Open 2011!

Isner took Nadal to 5 sets at the French open! How many times have Djokovic or Federer managed that?

[Doubles]

Originally Posted by ark_28

Thats only happened twice ever to be fair!! Other time was Djokovic at the US Open 2011!

Isner took Nadal to 5 sets at the French open! How many times have Djokovic or Federer managed that?

Getting lucky and treeing for two sets against Nadal is just that, luck. You talk about Isner like he's the best player ever and he hasn't even won a masters or made a slam semifinal.
Oh, and I think you need to use some more exclamation marks.

[ark_28]

Originally Posted by Doubles

Getting lucky and treeing for two sets against Nadal is just that, luck. You talk about Isner like he's the best player ever and he hasn't even won a masters or made a slam semifinal.
Oh, and I think you need to use some more exclamation marks.

Its funny how not many other player have managed to get that "lucky" v Nadal at the French isn't it? Let's not forget John also took Novak to 5 at the Davis Cup as well!

You keep bringing up the fact he doesn't have a slam or masters title as yet, well let's judge him at that end of his career in that respect!

As far as his game goes! He has a huge game that on it's day can blow anyone off court which he has proven many times now!

[Fedex]

Grammar police - off court not of court.

[single_handed_champion]

Isn't Roddick enough proof that a big serve+forehand is just not enough any more? The only Slam he ever won was because he was so much more aggressive off the ground (not to mention Federer was just entering his prime). And Roddick is actually better off the ground even at his most passive, explaining how he made all those Slam finals. Isner lost his momentum with his horrid European swing last year, when I was expecting great things from him. He became a servebot in service games + pusher in return games. Not bad results overall, won titles, but never where it really mattered.

Any decent baseliner with a good serve seems capable of beating him.

[Doubles]

Originally Posted by ark_28

Its funny how not many other player have managed to get that "lucky" v Nadal at the French isn't it? Let's not forget John also took Novak to 5 at the Davis Cup as well!

You keep bringing up the fact he doesn't have a slam or masters title as yet, well let's judge him at that end of his career in that respect!

As far as his game goes! He has a huge game that on it's day can blow anyone off court which he has proven many times now!

Soderling beat Nadal at the FO, but I guess big John Isner would beat him, wouldn't he?

[ark_28]

Raonic is giving Federer a tough time with his big serve!! the tour must be happy John is not there his monster serve would have run riot on these couts!!

[Tafmatch]

Originally Posted by ark_28

Raonic is giving Federer a tough time with his big serve!! the tour must be happy John is not there his monster serve would have run riot on these couts!!

Absolutely! But unfortunately for John, the quicker the courts the less likely he will be able to break a serve...

[always_crosscourt]

Originally Posted by ark_28

Raonic is giving Federer a tough time with his big serve!! the tour must be happy John is not there his monster serve would have run riot on these couts!!

Why have you suddenly turned into as much of an Isner-bot as Isner is a serve-bot? You bring him up in every post you write, and start a thread on him as if he is the firm favorite to win the AO.

It takes a very weird type of person who is satisfied by seeing matches made up by rallies consisting of 2 shots at the most.

I dunno, I suggest you maybe find a video of Karlovic vs Isner playing on extremely fast grass (or even better, ice), and watch that on repeat forever. At least that would stop you posting here about that dull all-serve bot.

[Olybel]

Originally Posted by ark_28

Raonic is giving Federer a tough time with his big serve!! the tour must be happy John is not there his monster serve would have run riot on these couts!!

Yeah, Raonic really kicked Federer *** today.

[tennis_pro]

Originally Posted by Tafmatch

Absolutely! But unfortunately for John, the quicker the courts the less likely he will be able to break a serve...

Not that it matters.

[Relinquis]

federer with a drop-shot return of serve on your other boy raonic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvgvSH3TAho

there is more to tennis then a big serve...

[ark_28]

Originally Posted by always_crosscourt

Why have you suddenly turned into as much of an Isner-bot as Isner is a serve-bot? You bring him up in every post you write, and start a thread on him as if he is the firm favorite to win the AO.

It takes a very weird type of person who is satisfied by seeing matches made up by rallies consisting of 2 shots at the most.

I dunno, I suggest you maybe find a video of Karlovic vs Isner playing on extremely fast grass (or even better, ice), and watch that on repeat forever. At least that would stop you posting here about that dull all-serve bot.

His all out attacking style has been missed at the Australian Open big serve big forehand take the racket out of the other guys hand! the game needs more of this flamboyant style

[ark_28]

Two of the sets Fed won today were tiebreaks! Breaking was not easy Tsonga served well

In these conditions Isner with his serve and with the bounce he extracts would have been tough for anyone to handle they would have been under consistent pressure knowing that if you get broken once then the set is pretty much done