NBA 2012-2013 Discussion, keep it classy - Page 25

Say Chi Sin Lo · 01-20-2013, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by soyizgood

Lakers lose to the Raptors today. I don't get it when it comes to those guys. The Raptors don't even have Bargnani and they still score 108. We need a "Missing" poster for the Lakers' defense.

You mean matador defense?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX2zWbl9OaY

Kenny Smith: "He should be fined for that."

soyizgood · 01-21-2013, 09:38 PM

Time for Laker fans to panic? Where is this big run that they have been predicting and proclaiming will occur?

Thunder, Clippers, and Spurs pretty much got the top 3 spots in the West locked up. Grizzlies and Warriors would make a great 1st round match up.

jamesblakefan#1 · 01-21-2013, 09:45 PM

Even as a Laker non-hater, i think it's time to panic. Dantoni isn't the right guy for this team. Gotta put Pau/Dwight in the post and play inside out. This team is one good trade away, but they won't make it. They don't have enough shooters to play off their bigs. This would be an all time disaster if they miss the playoffs.

Compare Memphis to LA. Very similar personnel. I know they lost today, but would you rather have ZBo than Dwight? Marc than Pau (thats the only maybe yes). Conley than Nash? And finally, Gay than Kobe? Only thing Memphis has is depth, which is important of course, but at the top LA isn't that different if they just played a different style and slowed it down to adapt to their personnel. Bold statement: They'd be doing better if they kept Mike Brown.

Disgruntled Worker · 01-22-2013, 05:27 AM

Watching the Lakers play the Bulls last night, they mentioned that the former was ranked 28th in the league in offensive and defensive efficiency when BOTH Dwight and Pau were on the court. When only ONE of them was on the court, the Lakers ranked fifth in efficiency. Bottom line, it makes more sense to start Earl Clark than Pau Gasol.

hollywood9826 · 01-22-2013, 05:27 AM

I dont know how healthy dwight is at the moment. But he is not 100%. And he seems to have slacked the intensisty on D he used to have in ORL. Maybe because he is injured he cant cover ground.

His ability to basically affect everyshot within 8ft of the basket is a big reason I thought this lakers team would work. But he aint got it right now and the rest of team is old and slow. They dont have the system in place like SA on the defensive side. Mainly becuase they dont have a leader like Duncan on D.

I agree with the Mike Brown comment Dantoni is the worng fit.

Say Chi Sin Lo · 01-22-2013, 09:33 AM

Except for Kobe Byrant and maybe Steve Nash, everyone on the Lakers is tradeable. Especially Chris Duhon for jacking up 3's from way beyond the arc, with ~8-10seconds left on the shot clock.

Andyroddickfan · 01-22-2013, 01:05 PM

Lakers need to go 31-12 in their remaining games to get 48 wins. That's the average for 8th place teams. Looks extremely doubtful.

hollywood9826 · 01-23-2013, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Say Chi Sin Lo

Except for Kobe Byrant and maybe Steve Nash, everyone on the Lakers is tradeable. Especially Chris Duhon for jacking up 3's from way beyond the arc, with ~8-10seconds left on the shot clock.

Thats Dantoni's system. Mike Brown would have not tolerated that kind of play. Duhon would have been instructed to give the ball to Kobe with 10 seconds left on the clock and watch him shoot through a triple team.

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Originally Posted by Andyroddickfan

Lakers need to go 31-12 in their remaining games to get 48 wins. That's the average for 8th place teams. Looks extremely doubtful.

Currently 12th best record in the west. Looks like houston is the 8th at the moment Lakers are 5 wins back but have played 2 less games. So they can still come on and make a run at that 8 seed.

forzamilan90 · 01-23-2013, 05:54 AM

Hawks fan. Admire the Thunder, Wolves and Mavericks. Kevin Love's injury sucks, they prob miss the playoffs

TCF · 01-23-2013, 06:31 AM

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Say Chi Sin Lo · 01-23-2013, 12:00 PM

I'm getting tired of these Lakers going to the media one after another, criticizing the team and other personnel about this and that.

Shut up and play. A little older yes, but you still have MASSIVE talent. Coaching issues or not, stand in front of the person you're supposed to be guarding. You don't need a coach to tell you that.

LeeD · 01-24-2013, 10:39 AM

Sad..
After beating the Clippers, Warriors go on to barely edge out the Thunder.
We know they're not irrelevant anymore, and most teams do take them somewhat seriously.
What will happen when Bogut returns for an inside presence? Currrently looking like a 5th seed, prolly will drop below the Nuggets when the Bogut transition takes place.
If it takes place this season.

hollywood9826 · 01-24-2013, 11:49 AM

TennisLovaLova · 01-25-2013, 12:07 PM

Kobe is not a team leader
Jordan used to make his teamnates better. Not Kobe.
Listen to this what Skip said about this

http://youtu.be/NvEdcMLNsjg

Disgruntled Worker · 01-25-2013, 05:46 PM

Skip is the biggest Jordan d!ckrider there's ever been. Bottom line, Kobe is playing with scrubs in a disorganized offense. And NO ONE could overcome that.

Ronaldo · 01-25-2013, 05:50 PM

How bout Kyrie tonite!

TennisLovaLova · 01-25-2013, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Disgruntled Worker

Skip is the biggest Jordan d!ckrider there's ever been. Bottom line, Kobe is playing with scrubs in a disorganized offense. And NO ONE could overcome that.

That doesnt make his argument invalid.
I wrote it in this thread a few weeks ago: MJ would have never allowed his team to be 17-25 as Kobe is doing.

2ManyAces · 01-26-2013, 06:30 AM

I just wanted to come in here to say one thing.

go heat

volleygirl · 01-26-2013, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Disgruntled Worker

Skip is the biggest Jordan d!ckrider there's ever been. Bottom line, Kobe is playing with scrubs in a disorganized offense. And NO ONE could overcome that.

Skip is an idiot but "Kobe is palying with scrubs?" Have you not watched the game forthe last 5 years or what? Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, and Ron Artest are far from being scrubs. Jordan with these guys would NOT be on 6 game losing streaks and in 12th place in the West.

Ronaldo · 01-26-2013, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by volleygirl

Skip is an idiot but "Kobe is palying with scrubs?" Have you not watched the game forthe last 5 years or what? Pau Gasol, Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, and Ron Artest are far from being scrubs. Jordan with these guys would NOT be on 6 game losing streaks and in 12th place in the West.

Kobe is 34. What was MJ doing when he was 34?

01-21-2013, 09:38 PM	#482
soyizgood Legend Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 9,714	Time for Laker fans to panic? Where is this big run that they have been predicting and proclaiming will occur? Thunder, Clippers, and Spurs pretty much got the top 3 spots in the West locked up. Grizzlies and Warriors would make a great 1st round match up. __________________ "The two-hander is just a more secure ball." - Navratilova Dunlop 4D 300/M-Fil 400/Aerogel 300. Babolat PS. 2HBH/Cheap Players club's CEO Last edited by soyizgood : 01-21-2013 at 09:42 PM.

01-21-2013, 09:45 PM	#483
jamesblakefan#1 G.O.A.T. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ODU Posts: 15,073	Even as a Laker non-hater, i think it's time to panic. Dantoni isn't the right guy for this team. Gotta put Pau/Dwight in the post and play inside out. This team is one good trade away, but they won't make it. They don't have enough shooters to play off their bigs. This would be an all time disaster if they miss the playoffs. Compare Memphis to LA. Very similar personnel. I know they lost today, but would you rather have ZBo than Dwight? Marc than Pau (thats the only maybe yes). Conley than Nash? And finally, Gay than Kobe? Only thing Memphis has is depth, which is important of course, but at the top LA isn't that different if they just played a different style and slowed it down to adapt to their personnel. Bold statement: They'd be doing better if they kept Mike Brown. Last edited by jamesblakefan#1 : 01-21-2013 at 09:48 PM.

01-22-2013, 05:27 AM	#484
Disgruntled Worker Rookie Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 245	Watching the Lakers play the Bulls last night, they mentioned that the former was ranked 28th in the league in offensive and defensive efficiency when BOTH Dwight and Pau were on the court. When only ONE of them was on the court, the Lakers ranked fifth in efficiency. Bottom line, it makes more sense to start Earl Clark than Pau Gasol. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70UN7RMBjxo

01-22-2013, 05:27 AM	#485
hollywood9826 Semi-Pro Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Havre de Grace, MD Posts: 492	I dont know how healthy dwight is at the moment. But he is not 100%. And he seems to have slacked the intensisty on D he used to have in ORL. Maybe because he is injured he cant cover ground. His ability to basically affect everyshot within 8ft of the basket is a big reason I thought this lakers team would work. But he aint got it right now and the rest of team is old and slow. They dont have the system in place like SA on the defensive side. Mainly becuase they dont have a leader like Duncan on D. I agree with the Mike Brown comment Dantoni is the worng fit. __________________ Touched by his Noodly Appendage

01-22-2013, 09:33 AM	#486
Say Chi Sin Lo Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,763	Except for Kobe Byrant and maybe Steve Nash, everyone on the Lakers is tradeable. Especially Chris Duhon for jacking up 3's from way beyond the arc, with ~8-10seconds left on the shot clock. __________________ Wilson BLX Six.One Tour 90. 374g, 8pts HL, SW=355 (according to TW's calculator) Last edited by Say Chi Sin Lo : 01-22-2013 at 09:35 AM.

01-23-2013, 06:31 AM	#490
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