Bench Press

[FastFreddy]

Originally Posted by T1000

Not yet. Natty up til now, gonna change soon. I've always had bad acne unfortunately. I'm running one this semester and starting within the next couple of weeks (2/18 at the latest). I'm a late bloomer too so the acne is hitting me at 19,20 instead of 16.

I love weighted dips and chins. I can do 20+ without weight. I use a belt. I can't see doing chains or the head harness being any good for you.

U said u were going to use peds if so which ones? I had friends get ripped on Winstrol-v, get huge on D-bol, Decca, Anadrol and Anavar. Now Test and HGH is all the gear u need unless u r Lance then add in EPO lol!! If I would ever juice I go with Winstrol V and just one 5 mg tab a day to cut up. Yesterday I benched 265 for 15 then 270 for 15 then 275 for 15. Waiting until I hit the wall I would say 285 since that's the most I done for 15. One time I knocked out 20 @ 285 on a smith machine.

[T1000]

Originally Posted by FastFreddy

U said u were going to use peds if so which ones? I had friends get ripped on Winstrol-v, get huge on D-bol, Decca, Anadrol and Anavar. Now Test and HGH is all the gear u need unless u r Lance then add in EPO lol!! If I would ever juice I go with Winstrol V and just one 5 mg tab a day to cut up. Yesterday I benched 265 for 15 then 270 for 15 then 275 for 15. Waiting until I hit the wall I would say 285 since that's the most I done for 15. One time I knocked out 20 @ 285 on a smith machine.

IDK yet. Looking at dbol, tbol, var, test, tren, deca, and halotestin. Done a lot of research on these and deciding this week what I'm gonna use, if I start now.

[Rickson]

T, don't use that ****. Stay natural and your organs will be with you a lot longer.

[IA-SteveB]

Originally Posted by Rickson

T, don't use that ****. Stay natural and your organs will be with you a lot longer.

I agree wholeheartedly. People who take this crap never give any thought to what may happen down the road. There are guys in the gym who talk about shooting up like it is as common as eating a donut for breakfast. It just makes me laugh. Plenty of naturals are just as good or better.

[FastFreddy]

Originally Posted by T1000

IDK yet. Looking at dbol, tbol, var, test, tren, deca, and halotestin. Done a lot of research on these and deciding this week what I'm gonna use, if I start now.

I seen a dude get huge on tren from BSN called no-xpode? Iam sure he was using other gear too. He bought up alot of it when it was still being sold like 3 years ago. I think it was a pro hormone but on the label it said use onlt for 4 weeks. Sounds like a roid to me since and my friend said his stick stopped working and his two little friends got smaller not good!! If I was going to take anything I would go Winstrol-v to cut up and then go Test and that's it HGH makes dudes look too freaky. Going to try and bench 280, 285, 290 each for 15 reps.

[FastFreddy]

Originally Posted by Rickson

Freddy, long time no see. Yes, I did get that job.

Nice, knew it would work out for u!!

[Itagaki]

Originally Posted by Rickson

T, don't use that ****. Stay natural and your organs will be with you a lot longer.

Originally Posted by IA-SteveB

I agree wholeheartedly. People who take this crap never give any thought to what may happen down the road. There are guys in the gym who talk about shooting up like it is as common as eating a donut for breakfast. It just makes me laugh. Plenty of naturals are just as good or better.

If he's really done his research (which he has said) he'll be just fine. Like any drug, the biggest danger is in abuse. If it's done properly, intelligently, and with medical supervision (at least inform your GP that you're doing it) then it can be done safely and effectively without destroying yourself anymore than long term drinking, smoking, or other drug use.

Gym bros that talk about shooting up in the gym probably do not fall into the category of intelligent users

T has some extravagant goals he wants to reach, which realistically WILL require the use of PEDS to accomplish unless he is in the top .1% of the genetic freak pool (like the kid I posted earlier, who might very well be on drugs and just beat the test)

[T1000]

Originally Posted by Rickson

T, don't use that ****. Stay natural and your organs will be with you a lot longer.

I want to be a pro athlete (mma/boxing) or pro powerlifting. Sacrifices have to be made to achieve your goals. I know it's a big decision but it's been my dream since I was a little kid and I'm fully dedicated to getting it and take full responsibility for anything that may go wrong. I'm not using it to get girls like 99% of the gear users, it's pretty much a necessity to get my goals

Originally Posted by IA-SteveB

I agree wholeheartedly. People who take this crap never give any thought to what may happen down the road. There are guys in the gym who talk about shooting up like it is as common as eating a donut for breakfast. It just makes me laugh. Plenty of naturals are just as good or better.

Nattys aren't anywhere near as good as juicers. The human body is pathetic and can't do anything near what gear can do. You can take 10-15 years of natty training and put it into 3-5 years.

Originally Posted by FastFreddy

I seen a dude get huge on tren from BSN called no-xpode? Iam sure he was using other gear too. He bought up alot of it when it was still being sold like 3 years ago. I think it was a pro hormone but on the label it said use onlt for 4 weeks. Sounds like a roid to me since and my friend said his stick stopped working and his two little friends got smaller not good!! If I was going to take anything I would go Winstrol-v to cut up and then go Test and that's it HGH makes dudes look too freaky. Going to try and bench 280, 285, 290 each for 15 reps.

No explode is a preworkout. It just has caffeine and other stims in it. Maybe he used a ph but those are stupid and there's no point in doing them. Winny messes your joints up too much, don't wanna mess with that. Yea you're right hgh makes that 3d look bbers have today. tren is supposed to be magic and I can't wait to use it one day.

Originally Posted by Itagaki

If he's really done his research (which he has said) he'll be just fine. Like any drug, the biggest danger is in abuse. If it's done properly, intelligently, and with medical supervision (at least inform your GP that you're doing it) then it can be done safely and effectively without destroying yourself anymore than long term drinking, smoking, or other drug use.

Gym bros that talk about shooting up in the gym probably do not fall into the category of intelligent users

T has some extravagant goals he wants to reach, which realistically WILL require the use of PEDS to accomplish unless he is in the top .1% of the genetic freak pool (like the kid I posted earlier, who might very well be on drugs and just beat the test)

Yea I've been looking at them since I was 16 or 17 so a solid 4-5 years now. Finally someone that actually knows gear instead of repeating what the media says. I got blood tests and pharma grade stuff so I'm all set. Multiple opinions on what I'm planning with all that research so I'm good to go. I could pm you if you needed proof but I'm 100% sure I'll recover fine. I would never risk my endocrine system without fully researching the crap out of it.

[Itagaki]

Originally Posted by T1000

Yea I've been looking at them since I was 16 or 17 so a solid 4-5 years now. Finally someone that actually knows gear instead of repeating what the media says. I got blood tests and pharma grade stuff so I'm all set. Multiple opinions on what I'm planning with all that research so I'm good to go. I could pm you if you needed proof but I'm 100% sure I'll recover fine. I would never risk my endocrine system without fully researching the crap out of it.

Hazard of the sport. I've become utterly disillusioned about PEDs since watching Bigger, Faster, Stronger and after hearing some inside information about olympic weightlifters of the past and present.

It's good to hear that you're going the right route with this, blood work and getting pharmaceutical grade stuff. Probably more expensive that way but ultimately will be much better than getting it from the shady guy at the gym

[T1000]

Originally Posted by Itagaki

Hazard of the sport. I've become utterly disillusioned about PEDs since watching Bigger, Faster, Stronger and after hearing some inside information about olympic weightlifters of the past and present.

It's good to hear that you're going the right route with this, blood work and getting pharmaceutical grade stuff. Probably more expensive that way but ultimately will be much better than getting it from the shady guy at the gym

Reality sucks haha. Once I found out how limited the human body is at putting on muscle and how practically every pro athlete is on something I started researching them. BTW pulled 455 for 1 today mixed grip and chalk at 165lbs. Trying to hit 500 natty now.

[Itagaki]

Originally Posted by T1000

Reality sucks haha. Once I found out how limited the human body is at putting on muscle and how practically every pro athlete is on something I started researching them. BTW pulled 455 for 1 today mixed grip and chalk at 165lbs. Trying to hit 500 natty now.

Damn...makes me wish I could deadlift more. Based on typical squat:deadlift numbers, I should be capable of pulling mid 400s or so, I just never get to train it.

[dyldore]

When I was working out a few months ago I repped 170lbs, 4 sets of 10. I could do 200lbs once. I weighed 175lbs. Idk what I could do now, a big chest is useless in tennis so I stopped lifting heavy.

[Rickson]

Freddy, hit me up on the email when you get a chance.

[FastFreddy]

Tomorrow going to try 280, 285 and 290. Tuesday I just rested my shoulder and just did 265 for 3 sets and took addvil twice.

[FastFreddy]

Just got back from the gym. First set put up 280 for 15 then did 285 then 290 sweet. Could have gone for more but since I have no spot I will move to the power cage so not to find my limit and get pinned with the weight. My goal is 305. Love to put up 3 plates(315) for 15 reps.

[brianb76]

I don't go heavy anymore, just high reps. I do 185 lbs ten times, and then burn out on 135 lbs 25 times. Repet 3 times.

[GuyClinch]

Tennis players would be better off with neutral grip dumbell press. Save your shoulders man..

If you are built right and use good technique - sure you can bench. But lots of tennis players have long arms and poor flexibility (especially thoracic) and run the risk of ruining themselves with benching..

Its not like you can't get stronger with heavy dumbells. Dumbell at 120lbs each is no joke.. As for steriods - perfectly safe in theory as they can corrrect natural shortages.

But. In practice you have to be a friggin chemist and have a doctor to monitor your cycles dosage and recovery drugs and stuff...and thats just to not screw yourself up in the shorterm.

This is why plenty of bodybuilders are actually smart. You got to be to work that stuff out. It's pretty complicated to do it right..

And they still seem to die young - as do professional wrestlers... (another steriod abusing group).. Leave the roids for people like aids patients who actually need em.

[Rickson]

T, if only women knew what you did about how the human body is limited in the amount of muscle it can gain. When I was a trainer, I'd see many women in the office talking about how they didn't want their muscles to get too big. I would ask them if they ever had huge muscles before and their response would usually be no. I'd follow up by telling them they had nothing to worry about.

[r2473]

Originally Posted by Rickson

T, if only women knew what you did about how the human body is limited in the amount of muscle it can gain. When I was a trainer, I'd see many women in the office talking about how they didn't want their muscles to get too big. I would ask them if they ever had huge muscles before and their response would usually be no. I'd follow up by telling them they had nothing to worry about.

Are you able to train women to crack coconuts with their thighs?

[Relinquis]

you guys bench so much, I'm surprised you can even play tennis.

no rotator cuff or, for the bigger guys, movement and stamina problems on court?