Before 3rd set 10-point tie break, guy took a 7 minute water break

[SystemicAnomaly]

^ The USTA link I cited in post #2 indicated a 2 minute break between sets and 3 minutes for a medical timeout.

Originally Posted by arche3

Lol at follow the guy to the bathroom. Is that really a rule? Cindy?
Let the guy pee in peace if needed.

That is the rule for WTA matches (and probably ATP as well).

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[floridatennisdude]

Originally Posted by Mongolmike

Just to be clear for my future reference, after the 2nd set ends and you are now going to start a match tiebreak, you ARE allowed a 3 minute (approximate) rest time, correct?

Then once the match tiebreak starts, you are not supposed to take a rest on side changeovers, not even to stop for a quick drink by your gear, correct? (But if both players are in agreement to grab a quick drink and towel-off... that is ok in the spirit of the game, correct?)

Also, a match tiebreak is like a new set in that for doubles either player can serve first and again in doubles you can now switch sides also, correct?

Correct, mostly.

No rule that you can't take a drink and towel off in a TB changeover. Just a normal between point time frame 25-30 seconds. Do what you will in that time frame.

[woodrow1029]

You are only allowed a 3 minute rest period in juniors matches. In adult divisions for tournaments, it is only a 2 minute set break.

If this is a league thing, there may be different local rules that apply.

[tennisdad65]

and what if the guy really needed to take a dump? and there was a line ahead of him?
you lost. get over it. get better. ... and stop blaming a break for your loss.
what was the score in the tiebreak?

[woodrow1029]

Of course, if it was a legitimate bathroom break, that is allowed, and a set break is the best time to take a bathroom break.

[SystemicAnomaly]

Originally Posted by floridatennisdude

Apparently you are quite suspect to a bathroom break or injury TO by your opponent. Best of luck.

No, I do not take any extended bathroom breaks if I am playing. As I said previously, any extended break would cause my joint to stiffen and could cause my muscles to feel sore.

[woodrow1029]

Ok. I am looking at the 2013 Friend at Court which was just released. A new, clarified rule is:

Leaving court.
A player may leave the court to retrieve a ball. A player shall obtain permission from an official to leave the court. If a player is unable to contact an official, a player may leave the court:

To contact an official
For a toilet/change Of attire break
To obtain water on a changeover or set break when none is available on the court
To repair or replace broken clothing, shoes, or necessary equipment other than the racket.

This was put in because there are some officials and players that are just too officious and don't have much common sense, so they just say " you can't leave" when good judgement should prevail as there are sometimes it makes sense for a player to temporarily leave.

These are all subject to "reasonable time" limitations, which of course is very subjective. If the closest water is a few minutes walk, that could be considered reasonable.

[gameboy]

Seriously, this sounds like the guy just went to the bathroom. If you cannot handle that, USTA league may not be for you.

[Rjtennis]

I might object to someone taking a break before a 3rd set TB since the match is almost over. After sets, I could care less if someone wants to take a 5-10 minute break. If I run out of water, I'll usually just ask a teammate to fill up my bottle. However, if there are not any teammates around (which never happens) I would think it reasonable to get some water. I would just be really quick about it. In my years playing USTA, the rules are not followed very closely. Nobody is timing breaks.

[Rjtennis]

Originally Posted by arche3

Lol at follow the guy to the bathroom. Is that really a rule? Cindy?
Let the guy pee in peace if needed.

I thought the same...that's crazy!

[stapletonj]

Geeze,

Do you stand there and watch him pee?
What if he gets "pee-shy"?

What if he goes into a stall, do you check him for tennis balls to make sure he is not dropping some busser balls into the toilet to splash and fool you that he is not actually using the bathroom?

C;mon guys, let's have some fun with this!

[SystemicAnomaly]

^ This is what happens in pro tennis -- I've seen it with WTA matches. If a player requests a bathroom break, she is required to be accompanied by a tournament official.

It seem that a lot of posters here don't seem to think that the extended bathroom break was out of line and/or it should not have had any significant effect on the OP. However, we have seen quite a different reaction to Vika's extended break in her SF match against Sloane Stephens at the AO. Commentators and much of the public at large were highly suspicious and critical of Vika's actions. She was asked several times about this in post match interviews. Quite a few fans have accused her of cheating.

It appeared that the extended break had a very positive effect for Vika's play and a dulling effect on Sloane, who was making quite a comeback prior to the break. Sloane's momentum was destroyed and she played quite a bit flatter after the break -- missing some easy shots.

[OrangePower]

^^^^ Bit of a difference between taking a longer break in between sets vs taking a longer break in the middle of a set right before your opponent is about to serve to stay in the set.

[directionals]

Originally Posted by SystemicAnomaly

^ This is what happens in pro tennis -- I've seen it with WTA matches. If a player requests a bathroom break, she is required to be accompanied by a tournament official.

It seem that a lot of posters here don't seem to think that the extended bathroom break was out of line and/or it should not have had any significant effect on the OP. However, we have seen quite a different reaction to Vika's extended break in her SF match against Sloane Stephens at the AO. Commentators and much of the public at large were highly suspicious and critical of Vika's actions. She was asked several times about this in post match interviews. Quite a few fans have accused her of cheating.

It appeared that the extended break had a very positive effect for Vika's play and a dulling effect on Sloane, who was making quite a comeback prior to the break. Sloane's momentum was destroyed and she played quite a bit flatter after the break -- missing some easy shots.

I was just going to bring up the Azarenka's dirty trick and you beat me to it I watched the SF and I couldn't believe Azarenka did it! Sick to my stomach.

OrangePower, the rule is 2 minutes between sets and my opponent broke the rule. The temperature on the court was in the 40's F. I had just own the 2nd set tiebreak. The dynamics were changed after the extended break. The 3rd set was a 10-point super tiebreak, not a full set.

[OrangePower]

Originally Posted by directionals

I was just going to bring up the Azarenka's dirty trick and you beat me to it I watched the SF and I couldn't believe Azarenka did it! Sick to my stomach.

OrangePower, the rule is 2 minutes between sets and my opponent broke the rule. The temperature on the court was in the 40's F. I had just own the 2nd set tiebreak. The dynamics were changed after the extended break. The 3rd set was a 10-point super tiebreak, not a full set.

Could well be that your opponent used gamesmanship against you - I'm not arguing that.

Just saying that you can't really compare your situation of taking an extended break between sets to Azarenka taking an extended break right before her opponent is serving to stay in the set. Let's say Azarenka had not taken the timeout, waited until the end of the second set (and lost the second set), and then taken med timeout between 2nd and 3rd sets, there would not have been nearly the same negative reaction against that.

[woodrow1029]

Originally Posted by directionals

I was just going to bring up the Azarenka's dirty trick and you beat me to it I watched the SF and I couldn't believe Azarenka did it! Sick to my stomach.

OrangePower, the rule is 2 minutes between sets and my opponent broke the rule. The temperature on the court was in the 40's F. I had just own the 2nd set tiebreak. The dynamics were changed after the extended break. The 3rd set was a 10-point super tiebreak, not a full set.

Just curious if you read my post from 1/19/13?

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

Originally Posted by SystemicAnomaly

^ The USTA link I cited in post #2 indicated a 2 minute break between sets and 3 minutes for a medical timeout.



That is the rule for WTA matches (and probably ATP as well).

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That. I don't care what the opponent(s) do during the allotted time, except for blatant coaching.

But once the time is over, your *** better be back on the court or I'll make sure they (opponent(s) and team members) will hear it from me.

[SystemicAnomaly]

Originally Posted by OrangePower

^^^^ Bit of a difference between taking a longer break in between sets vs taking a longer break in the middle of a set right before your opponent is about to serve to stay in the set.

More similarity than difference. The intent and effect can be very much the same.

[directionals]

Originally Posted by woodrow1029

Just curious if you read my post from 1/19/13?

Well, I don't really care what my opponent does as long as he comes back within 2 minutes. If he wants to go to the bathroom, go ahead. Wanna get a drink from McDonald's? Sure. But you'd better be back in 2 minutes.

[woodrow1029]

Originally Posted by directionals

Well, I don't really care what my opponent does as long as he comes back within 2 minutes. If he wants to go to the bathroom, go ahead. Wanna get a drink from McDonald's? Sure. But you'd better be back in 2 minutes.

Bathroom breaks are not limited to 2 minutes. Neither is going to get water if there is no water on court.

Bit since "you don't care", apparently you're not interested in learning the way it actually works.