Brad Gilbert on Medical Timeouts

[monomer]

Originally Posted by librarysteg

Has there been any serious talk of her getting fined? I was just reading this article that mentions the possibility:

http://blogs.wsj.com/dailyfix/2013/0...tephens-exits/

Says she could be fined $10,000 if they choose to enforce the guidelines in the WTA rule book.

If I recall, the prize money for making the semi's is $500,000. Make the finals and you have $1.2 million if you lose and $2.4 million if you win. I think that Azarenka would gladly have agreed to pay $10k for being able to take the MTO.

[Relinquis]

Spoilers much? This thread...

Brad Gilbert, the expert on winning ugly.

It would have been nice to see Azeranka fight the set out and beat Sloane fair and square. Alas, she did it the Gilbert way instead. She's still the winner and was the superior player on the day.

[chatt_town]

I hadn't read the book but I doubt anywhere in there the book encouraged this kind of behavior. Had she finished the match the way it should have been finished, I doubt she would have won. If anything she would have quit or choked like she did the U.S Open. They really need to change this before the next major...really right after this tourney. The only way you leave the court is on your own serve.

Originally Posted by Relinquis

Spoilers much? This thread...

Brad Gilbert, the expert on winning ugly.

It would have been nice to see Azeranka fight the set out and beat Sloane fair and square. Alas, she did it the Gilbert way instead. She's still the winner and was the superior player on the day.

[zagor]

Originally Posted by borg number one

Interesting Zagor. By the way, I'm not trying to change your opinion on the Davydenko situation. Again, I don't think the bathroom break was that big of a deal, but I do think it involved a degree of on court gamesmanship by Federer. I happen to think it was subtle gamesmanship, but some gamesmanship nonetheless. As for Djokovic, I agree that at times he does some things that are pretty admirable, such as giving credit to his opponent even after a great point in the heat of battle. As to Federer, thoughts on Wimbledon 2008 and the darkness question? How about questioning hawkeye repeatedly on Centre Court? Again, very subtle, but he has ways of trying to change the flow of a match and also disrupt his opponent just enough and we all know how matches can turn even with small shifts.

Regarding Wimbledon darkness, well I think Fed was worse off in the darkness than Nadal because Nadal's game is high margin and because he was getting tired in the 5th set (unlike Nadal) so I think postponing the match for the next would have benefited to him greatly, that said despite that Fed didn't really pressure the umpire to postpone the match and he certainly could have given his status in the game and authority.

Regarding asking hawkeye to be turned off, don't confuse gamesmanship with having a meltdown, Fed completely lost it mentally and lost the set 6-2 after that hawkeye challenge, he also started very shaky the next (5th) set giving Nadal several BP chances at the start, only after he fended them off did he finally regroup mentally.

[borg number one]

Zagor, I agree with your general explanations on those two situations, but I don't think those were the sole reasons involved. Another benefit in both situations was that he was trying to effectuate a mental edge. That's gamesmanship in my book. Two more situations that come to mind, yelling "shut up" to Djokovic's parents and then during the Murray match, yelling at Murray directly from the net. Frustration? Yes, I agree, but often losing your temper on the court can be used for gamesmanship. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

[zagor]

Originally Posted by borg number one

Zagor, I agree with your general explanations on those two situations, but I don't think those were the sole reasons involved. Another benefit in both situations was that he was trying to effectuate a mental edge. That's gamesmanship in my book. Two more situations that come to mind, yelling "shut up" to Djokovic's parents and then during the Murray match, yelling at Murray directly from the net. Frustration? Yes, I agree, but often losing your temper on the court can be used for gamesmanship. The two things are not mutually exclusive.

I don't know, I still don't feel like heat in the moment outbursts are gamesmanship but I can see your point as well, what Fed did when Murray was serving for the match was bad sportsmanship and a lack of class and he looked like he regretted it later on (tried to mend things somewhat with warm handshake with Murray at the net when he lost).