Babolat Tungsten Tape

[El Zed]

Originally Posted by Federerkblade

seriously do we need to be careful when handling lead tape

Yes.......

[SFrazeur]

People, especially the loony Californians on here, way over exaggerate the potential risk of lead tape. No. Do not eat it. Sure. wash your hands after applying it. If there was a major risk in being in contact with lead tape then professional tennis player would not have it bare on their racuqets where they could graze it with their hands and touch their mouths. They would never take the risk in harming their health. Ever see Sampras' racquet? If lead was that dangerous then he would be dead or stricken with health problems.
-SF

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by Babolat Official

We'll have more info in the next couple months as it is released in the US.

Couple months, huh?
Meanwhile those interested can Google Tungsten Flex Weight, maybe it's good for tail weighting or something...

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by SFrazeur

People, especially the loony Californians on here, way over exaggerate the potential risk of lead tape. No. Do not eat it. Sure. wash your hands after applying it. If there was a major risk in being in contact with lead tape then professional tennis player would not have it bare on their racuqets where they could graze it with their hands and touch their mouths. They would never take the risk in harming their health. Ever see Sampras' racquet? If lead was that dangerous then he would be dead or stricken with health problems.
-SF

Pete Sampras is from another era, environmentally speaking. Nowadays lead tape is stuffed under the bumper more often than not.
And who cares about risks related to lead tape now, that we have better alternative?

[The Meat]

Originally Posted by maxpotapov

Pete Sampras is from another era, environmentally speaking. Nowadays lead tape is stuffed under the bumper more often than not.
And who cares about risks related to lead tape now, that we have better alternative?

Or a better alternative would be to use lead tape with a piece of regular colored tape over it. You can weigh up your sticks while being cancer free.

[Rock Strongo]

As long as it isn't mercury you should be OK...

[The Bawss]

Nothing.

10 nothings.

[hittman10]

I'm looking for some super radioactive uranium tape, any dealers?

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by The Meat

Or a better alternative would be to use lead tape with a piece of regular colored tape over it. You can weigh up your sticks while being cancer free.

Or use tungsten tape and hide it under bumper!
You can not be too careful with heavy metals

[chrisl]

From the Merck Index:

Potential symptoms of overexposure to tungsten are irritation of eyes, skin, respiratory system; diffuse pulmonary fibrosis; loss of appetite, nausea, cough; blood changes. See NIOSH
Pocket Guide to Chemical Hazards (DHHS/NIOSH 97-140,
1997)

Lead Toxicity: children show weight loss, weakness, anemia. Lead
poisoning in adults is usually occupational due mainly to inhalation of lead dust or fumes. Wristdrop and colic rarely occur. More often there are vague G.I. and CNS complaints. Pb content of blood
0.05 mg% and of urine
0.08 mg per liter support a diagnosis of Pb poisoning. Provocative excretion test
using Edathamil may be helpful in confirming excess Pb absorption.
Review of toxicity: Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products, R. E. Gosselin et al., Eds. (Williams & Wilkins, Baltimore, 4th ed., 1976) Section III, pp 194-202; Lead Toxicity, R. L. Singhal, J. A. Thomas, Eds. (Urban & Schwarzenberg, Baltimore, 1980) 514 pp.


So while lead and tungsten are to be treated with care, as long as you don't erode it, vaporize it or ingest it in some other way you'll be fine. Avoiding powdering and the creation of fumes, and washing hands after working with the materials gets you a long way

[max]

Originally Posted by maxpotapov

Look what they got on TWE:
http://tw.babolat.com/product/tennis.../balancer-tape
http://www.tenniswarehouse-europe.co...CBABH-BBT.html
Finally I can do customization without health hazard for my 3 y.o. who likes to play with all my racquets.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten

Umm, overblown fear once you study lead's actual toxicity.

This is another one of those over-hyped dangers.

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by max

Umm, overblown fear once you study lead's actual toxicity.

This is another one of those over-hyped dangers.

Today it's over-hyped, tomorrow it's a law. Welcome to lead-free states!
Do I have to study actual toxicity if I can live happily without any lead around?
My grandma worked with lead for 50 years at the factory (soldering station) and she is still doing fine at 90 y.o. So what, should I give my kids lead toys to play?

[TimothyO]

Originally Posted by maxpotapov

Today it's over-hyped, tomorrow it's a law. Welcome to lead-free states!
Do I have to study actual toxicity if I can live happily without any lead around?
My grandma worked with lead for 50 years at the factory (soldering station) and she is still doing fine at 90 y.o. So what, should I give my kids lead toys to play?

Kids metabolize lead at a far different rate than adults. Form also matters. Dust from sanded lead paint is dangerous and easily ingested or inhaled while solid lead isn't as much of a threat. That which is relatively harmless to an adult can be very dangerous to a child.

Some time ago New York tried to ban the sale of lead figures for a hobby known as miniature wargaming. These are miniature figures of soldiers used in tabletop games. There was a lawsuit and trial and the state lost when the industry showed that people working with the figures on a daily basis show no elevated levels of lead in their blood (at least no higher than the general population since we all have lead in our bodies from various sources). In the end the victory didn't matter since the industry feared lawsuits and switched to pewter and resin casts over time.

In any case, the science in that trial showed that even handling solid and molten lead didn't elevate lead levels in the blood. I really don't think that lead tape poses a series health risk unless you're sanding it or licking it. Put it on your frame, wash your hands afterwards, and don't lick it!

[TimothyO]

Originally Posted by hittman10

I'm looking for some super radioactive uranium tape, any dealers?

I use depleted uranium on my frames!

Excellent if you need to penetrate an enemy AFV!

[maxpotapov]

I can't find information if it's 1/4 or 1/2 inch stripes, I hope 1/4

[mxmx]

I'm sure coated lead tape will be less a health risk?
Like wilson lead tape?

[J011yroger]

Originally Posted by TimothyO

Kids metabolize lead at a far different rate than adults. Form also matters. Dust from sanded lead paint is dangerous and easily ingested or inhaled while solid lead isn't as much of a threat. That which is relatively harmless to an adult can be very dangerous to a child.

Some time ago New York tried to ban the sale of lead figures for a hobby known as miniature wargaming. These are miniature figures of soldiers used in tabletop games. There was a lawsuit and trial and the state lost when the industry showed that people working with the figures on a daily basis show no elevated levels of lead in their blood (at least no higher than the general population since we all have lead in our bodies from various sources). In the end the victory didn't matter since the industry feared lawsuits and switched to pewter and resin casts over time.

In any case, the science in that trial showed that even handling solid and molten lead didn't elevate lead levels in the blood. I really don't think that lead tape poses a series health risk unless you're sanding it or licking it. Put it on your frame, wash your hands afterwards, and don't lick it!

A fellow nerd!

J

[max]

The lead danger is children eating it or breathing the dust.

It takes quite a long time for adults to get ill: visit the old lead mining towns in Wisconsin and you learn that miners---grown men working 10-12 hours a day down in the mine, breathing the stuff in, would take 6-8 months to start getting ill.

So you would need RADICAL OVEREXPOSURE to feel its toxicity.

Compare that to the health effects of eating a Big Mac each day for a month (much more deleterious).

A little personal note. As a kid I used to help my grandfather mold lead sinkers. He had a little gas stove in the basement, a small iron pot, and we'd melt the lead, then pour it into a mold. Fun. He died in his 80s---and surely he had more exposure to lead than you or I will in our life times.

Take things in stride. The "lead issue" was another Media Yap Day.

[max]

To me, this "issue" shows how far out of touch many people can be when it comes to practical matters. My two cents, to be sure.

[maxpotapov]

Originally Posted by max

The lead danger is children eating it or breathing the dust.

It takes quite a long time for adults to get ill: visit the old lead mining towns in Wisconsin and you learn that miners---grown men working 10-12 hours a day down in the mine, breathing the stuff in, would take 6-8 months to start getting ill.

So you would need RADICAL OVEREXPOSURE to feel its toxicity.

Compare that to the health effects of eating a Big Mac each day for a month (much more deleterious).

OK I won't use Big Mac to add weight... And I won't use lead either, even though it's less dangerous