What Fed yelled to Murray at net

[abmk]

heh @ that picture ... didn't see that during the match ...

[slal1984]

Fed: "Your Balding"
Murray: "Damn, Could you tell?"

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by ultradr

I have NEVER seen a MALE player who never loses a class in the heat of the moment, at least a bit,
......well, except,


........., Stephan Edberg of the Stephan Edberg Sportmanship Award.


Wait, add Bjorn Borg to that, probably.

1981 Masters against McEnroe.....Borg lost his cool.

Edberg lost his cool in some matches as well. He got ****ed at an Umpire before because of a call that was against him.

Edberg, Federer, Borg, Sampras are as cool as they come.....but they are human too. They do show anger, frustration and in the heat of the moment they do some stupid things.

It just that they do it a lot less than others....

[Relinquis]

Originally Posted by axel89

murray shrugged it off he handled it better than you guys are lol

what do you mean "you guys"? don't lump me up with the fanbois please.

i have no issues with anything that either player did. federer is one of my favourite players and i picked murray to win the entire tournament weeks ago. he was the better player on the day and i like what he has done over the past two years with his game and mentality.

[Relinquis]

Are broadcasters editing this out from replays?! unreal how much censorship there is in sport.

[Mainad]

Look, I'm pretty sure there's quite a bit of passive-aggressive gamesmanship and cross-net banter between two great players during a hard-fought closely matched contest which both are desperate to win. Neither player rarely takes it personally and usually just shrugs it off (as Murray did) or gives back as good as he gets. Once the match is over, they are good friends again or at least friendly rivals.

I'm pretty sure it goes on in all sports!

[tennis_pro]

Probably something like "F*****ng pusher!"

[veroniquem]

I have a feeling from several years of listening to their press conf that there's no love lost between the 2.

[db379]

Originally Posted by Kilco

Wow!! How can Murray not be a class act. He is great with the press, very respectful to everyone he talks to. He always congratulates his oppenents with they have gotten the better of him, even in grand slam finals and matches where he could have been forgiven for being sour about his loss. Sure he gets annoyed with himself on the court but that is at himself. He never directs it at anyone in a disrespectful way. He carries himself well off the court and is a very down to earth nice guy. Many people who have spoken with him and dealt with him have mentioned many of these things. That is class.

Murray has class??? We certainly don't have the same definition of class...

[NadalDramaQueen]

Originally Posted by Harry_Wild

To bad ESPN had to edit the video of the match. I would love to see the live feed unedited. I have to search some foreign sites to see if I can watch this particular moment and get the 10-15 second version.

This is very interesting to watch it complete!

Do everyone a favor and post the link.

[hersito]

In ESPN GO I can watch 2 feeds one in spanish and one in english, in the spanish one they show that partof the game from the side but only in a repetition you get to see fed cursing, in that one it you can think that he said that to the public behind murray because he didn't want to start the point until everyone was seated, and in one shot the public from there seemed to cal the ball out. In the american version you can see the point from behind federer and see that he is looking at murray when he says it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDljCVlov9c minute 58. I think he was upset that every line murray would take a milisecond waiting for a bad call, thats what he wanted him to stop doing.

[vandre]

Originally Posted by mariecon

He's won the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award 8 times. That will never be matched. Ignore the haters.

easy to be a good sport while you're collecting trophies and winner's checks. it's a bit tougher when things are less rosy, as we saw against murray

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by millicurie999

Six players have been assessed fines of up to $1,500 each for audible obscenities at the Open so far (though none since the third round). Federer did not receive a code violation during the match, and therefore will not have to add to the swearing fund.

So, where's the outrage about Federer getting special treatment, etc?

Originally Posted by mariecon

Gamesmanship is used to help you win, within the rules but by a small margin. How is yelling at Murray gamesmanship? Time wasting, unnecessary MTOs, excessive ball bouncing, pretending you're injured when you're not; These things are gamesmanship. Losing your temper is losing your temper. I've never heard someone say that smashing a racquet is gamesmanship. How is this different? It's a spontaneous outburst. Getting angry can just as easily have a negative effect on the person getting angry.

It's gamesmanship if he was trying to rattle Murray. Murray has said he thinks gamesmanship is just fine anyway.

I don't think gamesmanship is equivalent to bad sportsmanship.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Goosehead

did anyone see at the start of the semi on eurosport that an australian tv had positioned one of those remote swivel cameras near where mirka and co were sitting in the players box...

but they wernt happen with being zoo exhibits..and the bloke next to mirka threw a jacket over the camera and covered it,

then it was moving its head around still even though it was now covered, and it looked like a ghost ..whoooooooo,

result was no intrusion into mirka-land, but much laughing at the now spooky looking jacket covered camera.

Didn't Lendl do the same thing a while ago?.

Originally Posted by Mainad

Look, I'm pretty sure there's quite a bit of passive-aggressive gamesmanship and cross-net banter between two great players during a hard-fought closely matched contest which both are desperate to win. Neither player rarely takes it personally and usually just shrugs it off (as Murray did) or gives back as good as he gets. Once the match is over, they are good friends again or at least friendly rivals.

I'm pretty sure it goes on in all sports!

Overall true, but I doubt Fed and Andy are too friendly to begin with...

[Steve0904]

Originally Posted by volleygirl

Come on man. A tennis balls not gonna give him a concussion like the NFL is so worried about. If you dont wanna risk getting hit by the ball then dont come up to the net.

If a tennis ball is hit hard enough and you get clocked in the head with it, you're more than probable to get a concussion. Don't be stupid. As for not coming to the net at least a handful of times in a match, that's basically impossible even these days. Anyway it's not that important. All I'm saying is Murray has become a little too fixated on going at the body when he has another (sometimes easier) shot. I really don't have much problem with what either player did here though.

[tangerine]

Mr Stefan Edberg sportmanship class act Rogie acting like a butt-hurt b*tch when he's losing, say it ain't so!

[Steve0904]

I don't mean to be part of the grammar police here, but it's Stefan Edberg, not "Stephan." More than the above poster has made that mistake in this thread. Almost as bad is when people spell Peyton Manning's name with an A. (i.e Payton.) Just gets on my nerves.

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by tangerine

Mr Stefan Edberg sportmanship class act Rogie acting like a butt-hurt b*tch when he's losing, say it ain't so!

Yup, Roger has always called your boy Roddick a "great guy" despite his fratboy atitude on the court. Probably was modeling himself after Roddick. Federer's moment of heat was a near spitting image of Roddick's beratement of Tsonga in their 2007 AO match, except Roddick's tirade was much worse, of course.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by Steve0904

If a tennis ball is hit hard enough and you get clocked in the head with it, you're more than probable to get a concussion. Don't be stupid. As for not coming to the net at least a handful of times in a match, that's basically impossible even these days. Anyway it's not that important. All I'm saying is Murray has become a little too fixated on going at the body when he has another (sometimes easier) shot. I really don't have much problem with what either player did here though.

I don't think it's a big deal what Fed did, but unlike it, a body shot is perfectly legitimate. Not really the same.

[borg number one]

This is Bjorn Borg "losing his cool" at the Masters against McEnroe. McEnroe later threw a point because of a particularly bad call that went against Borg. McEnroe was usually on his very best behavior vs. Borg because he had so much respect for him (plus his antics would look really silly in contrast to the stoic Borg.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVwPAOpFweY

(Thanks Krosero for the Video, "Borg potesting a point, McEnroe giving one away"). Watch Borg glaring at the umpire while he is given point penalties at a critical stage of that match that Borg went on to win. Borg went 5-0 versus McEnroe, Connors, and Lendl at the year end Masters Cup tourneys at MSG to win both the '79 and '80 events played in Jan. 80 and Jan. 81 respectively on fast indoor carpet at MSG. This incident was stunning because it was so unlike Borg to react this way, even though he was a hothead when he was much younger (the influence of Rod Laver on him, the fact that he was suspended from his club as a teenager caused him to become a player that was known as the "Iceman".) He won the Tour sportsmanship award I believe after the 1980 season. During a match in Memphis early in the career, when McEnroe was basically losing it, Borg called him up to the net for a chat. McEnroe recalls that he was thinking "oh no, this is not good" basically, but Borg quietly just told him, "look John it's just a tennis match, relax...". McEnroe said he really appreciated that from Borg and it really helped him calm down a bit during later matches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyuiEzBb7hk

(See Borg vs. Lendl in the Jan. 81 Masters final ('80 year end event)