I love techno

[Leelord337]

I always find good trance/techno music here
http://turntable.fm/trance_out

[TennisLovaLova]

^^^ nice link mate

[rommil]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvcoX6EQH2s

This song was massive with college kids in the Philippines back in the 80's............although Seona Dancing is prob the last thing Ricky wants to talk about

[Overdrive]

What about Bewitched- Blood on the Dance Floor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEDM4bsfWg

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by Overdrive

What about Bewitched- Blood on the Dance Floor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bEDM4bsfWg

I dont really like this

Try this instead
From Norway with love
http://youtu.be/T2m-tlu_wd0

[Leelord337]

I really like this Delirium song feat. Sarah Maclachlan. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLN4i..._6A2r&index=19

and this Paul Van Dyk Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baiSN7m10WE

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by Leelord337

I really like this Delirium song feat. Sarah Maclachlan. ...
and this Paul Van Dyk Song ...

Originally Posted by Overdrive

What about Bewitched- Blood on the Dance Floor?

If you want to post rubbish like that please start a commercial house or candy trance thread. Don't post them in a thread called I Love Techno.

[Leelord337]

paul van dyk isn't rubbish, lol

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by Leelord337

paul van dyk isn't rubbish, lol

The overwhelming consensus in the techno world is that Paul Van Dyk is rubbish.

He makes and plays music for candy ravers. Feel free to start a trance thread for PvD or similar music which has nothing to do with techno.

[Overdrive]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

If you want to post rubbish like that please start a commercial house or candy trance thread. Don't post them in a thread called I Love Techno.

Sorry, I was kidding actually...

[TennisLovaLova]

Actually, PVD before what we can call the EDM boom after 2000, used to produce really interesting trance techno live sets.
But Bobby Jr is right, now he's like Tiesto, filling arenas with his cheesy trance sound. His production just sucks.
And IMO, Paul Kalkbrenner is the new PVD!

On another subject, it's funny to notice that now in 2013, most popular "underground" dj's (cause they're not really undeground!) such as jamie jones, art department or even Tale of Us make crowds vibe to 117-124 bpm tunes. Very downtempo. Before it was >140 bpm and more or nothing. Interesting change in the EDM sound.
I like it personnally, it's slower and deeper, a mix of detroit techno and chicago house to today's tastes...
And some dj's even started singing live (kenny glasgow of art department, maceo plex/maetrik, etc.)
Some say it's just an old trend that is today's new tendance and that it's gonna be forgotten 3 years from now. Who knows?

That's why guys like Hawtin, villalobos, Digweed, steve bug or even sven vath will last longer imo, because they built their own sound, not very time sensitive.

Some name dropping of the current leading dj's of the real EDM scene for those interested in listening to fresh EDM:
Michael Mayer
Deetron
Tale of Us
Art Department
Eats Everything
Dixon
Marcel Dettmann

Also, there's one crazy superstar dj called Seth Troxler, insane track selection...

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

Actually, PVD before what we can call the EDM boom after 2000, used to produce really interesting trance techno live sets.

I back you on most of what you say but as someone who's followed electronic music insanely closely for 25 plus years I have never seen or heard a single reference to PvD as "trance techno". If they did, it was either a misnomer, some clueless newb thinking they knew about dance music or, some trance cracker trying to paint their sound in a less god-awful light.

Trance is and has been utter drivel for 15 years plus. What started out as an interesting idea has been dominated by cheese peddling egomaniacs who attract musically clueless fans like nothing. There is even a great cartoon series about trance > seriously, enjoy this in its entirety, it cuts pretty close to the bone regarding trance > http://ghfdrvtsyup.net/rokhausen/index.html

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

I back you on most of what you say but as someone who's followed electronic music insanely closely for 25 plus years I have never seen or heard a single reference to PvD as "trance techno". If they did, it was either a misnomer, some clueless newb thinking they knew about dance music or, some trance cracker trying to paint their sound in a less god-awful light.

OF COURSE I DID IT ON PURPOSE
It's commerical dance music not original trance, we agree on this

seriously, enjoy this in its entirety, it cuts pretty close to the bone regarding trance > http://ghfdrvtsyup.net/rokhausen/index.html

hahaha
page 10: he's number 1, dj mag says so, priceless
the rest is extreme, but it's the sad truth. I remember the spirit of the parties in the nineties, you entered a club or went to a rave in the country it was like stepping into the twilight zone, new friends, good vibes and all. Now it's all standard, institutionnalized.

the "turn your back on the dj" stuff is actually right, I do it myself without even realising I'm doing it in the club.
I almost never see what the dj do...
and that's exactly what they're doing in the boiler room in london or in amsterdam: the have the dj there play facing a wall and people enjoy their party without focusing on the dj or anything else... of course they are always some people staying right behind the dj, but they dont get the point... that dj worshiping is weird but new generation of drugs made that dj cult so easy for the dj's, people coming at them, wanting hugs, kisses, autographs, you name it...


so last time at the Art Department gig in Marrakech, I had a little chat with Kenny Glasgow when the club closed, just before going to the afterparty in their hotel room. Very cool guy, very normal and positive thinking. nothing you'd think about a dj at the peak of his carreer and enjoying his success. we talked about Silence of the Lambs, Canada ans Morocco for about 15 minutes.
The guy is almost 40, he's seen it all, he's been in the clubbing system all his life and now he's enjoying some well deserved but late success.
He told me (and it was confirmed by my friend who manages the pacha complex in Marrakech) that for this gig they were paid 5.000$ by Pacha Marrakech.
Which is close to nothing in the dj world.
He also added that they came because they never been to Africa before.
They came to discover something new.

I think something like that would be impossible with the likes of guetta, tiesta or even pvd or that Ahole of Deadmouse who get 100K for gigs and travel on private jets

So there are dj's and dj's. The spirit of old is still alive, just difficult to find.

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

...for this gig they were paid 5.000$ by Pacha Marrakech.
Which is close to nothing in the dj world.
He also added that they came because they never been to Africa before.
They came to discover something new.

You'd be wrong. 5k is actually more the norm than the exception - in fact many play for much less if they can string three nights in a row regionally.

Old associates of mine still do regular international gigs and they rebook a few guys annually or more regularly - with much bigger global profiles than Kenny Glasgow - and they don't get paid much more than that per gig. The clubs may pay more but that factors in flights, hotel, etc which can bump the price by 50% over what the artist gets paid.

As for Deamau5 doing the private jet thing - his days of doing that will soon be over. He's been pinged a number of times for dissing the way DJs play their sets only to have some high profile DJs spreading the word around the trap that he actually pre-records his DJing sets. Once a DJ gets to that level their bookings become resigned to massive one-off parties and so the clock ticks faster than for guys who can play (and rock) local clubs and gigs of all sizes which drive the scenes everywhere.

[TennisLovaLova]

They were paid 2.5k each
Which is cheap compared to what guetta or pvd ask for a gig
That was the comparison I was making.
Anyway, the real spirit is not totally dead

[Bobby Jr]

Just saw this again. It's a Japanese live jazz band called A Hundred Birds which remakes classic techno as live tracks. This is their remake of Octave One 'Blackwater', one of the most iconic techno tracks since the turn of the century.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdQjXwvaVc

[Ronaldo]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Just saw this again. It's a Japanese live jazz band called A Hundred Birds which remakes classic techno as live tracks. This is their remake of Octave One 'Blackwater', one of the most iconic techno tracks since the turn of the century.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdQjXwvaVc

Actually still hear this late night on the radio on the weekends.

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Leelord337

paul van dyk isn't rubbish, lol

Truth, but only in his technical skills do I think he isn't rubbish. His setup and how he basically remakes tracks on the fly and mixes them with other people's tracks as the set goes on is pretty neat. It's quite intuitive.

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

As for Deamau5 doing the private jet thing - his days of doing that will soon be over. He's been pinged a number of times for dissing the way DJs play their sets only to have some high profile DJs spreading the word around the trap that he actually pre-records his DJing sets. Once a DJ gets to that level their bookings become resigned to massive one-off parties and so the clock ticks faster than for guys who can play (and rock) local clubs and gigs of all sizes which drive the scenes everywhere.

That's the whole point of his set. He basically converted his studio into a live setup and has the MIDI already mixed and pre-programmed. All he does is twiddle a few knobs and recall a few presets from his hardware synths in a live situation. His stuff is actually really well mixed and produced so all he does is basically load up a ton MIDI and automation data from his productions into one instance of Ableton and hits play. Albeit with some 15-20k worth of gear around him. Look at his setup, it's borderline impossible to do all that 100% live. And it is impossible to do that whilst mixing in the tracks of other people, due to how the key progression of his tracks work in relation to that of others.

His old live set was cooler, when he used a custom built controller to program all his sequences and one-shots on top of his music and that of other people.

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Just saw this again. It's a Japanese live jazz band called A Hundred Birds which remakes classic techno as live tracks. This is their remake of Octave One 'Blackwater', one of the most iconic techno tracks since the turn of the century.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NdQjXwvaVc

That is awesome.

[NickC]

And is anyone else here into production?

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by NickC

And is anyone else here into production?

if by production you mean spending 3 hours / week on fruityloops then yes§
Actually I make my own podcasts and share them with my friends.
Mostly minimal or deep if I'm feeling "romantic"