Got double bageled today. Feel like I never wanna play again

[slowfox]

Originally Posted by Buford T Justice

As I re-read this, it sounded flippant.

Sounded fine to me. And you made a good point relating it to baseball.

[amorris525]

Originally Posted by Buford T Justice

Also...another thing that usually gets forgotten is that tennis scoring exagerates differences.

Example---

If one were to win only 50% of all points played, and therefore be considered "equal" with their opponent in any other more simple scoring structure, one could still win the set 6-0.

That's actually not true, but I do get your point. In a 6-3 set this is definitely possible, not 6-0.

[Buford T Justice]

Originally Posted by amorris525

That's actually not true, but I do get your point. In a 6-3 set this is definitely possible, not 6-0.

Yes the point is that tennis scoring exaggerates differences even if my numbers are off.

I understand that, statistically speaking, there is a 2% chance of winning a set 6-0 when winning half the points.

But yes, something like 6-3 would obviously be more likely.

Let me dig up the old book I had on this and see if I can find the percentages for reference.....

[Buford T Justice]

I found the old book! It's an early 70's book by Rod Laver my father in law gave me a few years ago before he passed away.

The article is only two pages so ill try and scan it and post it here. It seems to be interesting reading on the tennis scoring system, probabilities, etc.

[amorris525]

I see. I was thinking of only playing one set. In a best of 3 match, you definitely can. My mistake.

[Say Chi Sin Lo]

In all honestly, getting owned like this can be a good thing.

If you were to lose a close match, then your opponent(s) simply outplayed you in key moments.

But when you can't even make a dent on the scoreboard, then it's probably because you were hitting shots you aren't comfortable with. Or your opponent(s) put you in a court position in which you're not comfortable with.

Either way, you can learn a lot from these lop-sided losses.

[Buford T Justice]

[Buford T Justice]

[Buford T Justice]

[Doc K]

Thanks for posting the article.

I'd say this: push yourself. I'd rather play up a level or two and get bageled than play the same kinds of matches against the same five or six guys from league play.

My club has a pro who is ambidextrous and I've learned more with him playing lefty (he's a 4.5 lefthanded) than maybe anything else. Seeing the opposite hand taught me how to anticipate chips and drops really well, even if it meant buying him a few beers as penance for taking the bagel.

Use it as motivation. My father-in-law is 83 and is a national super-senior triathlete champion. You better believe that motivates me at the gym and in the pool.

[OrangePower]

True story: league match, a few years ago, I beat a guy 0 & 0. But every game was close, just that I won the big points. Opponent was just getting back into the game after a long layoff. I could see that he had game. One year later, we came across each other again in league, and he beat me in 3 tight sets.

Don't get discouraged; get out there and work on your game, and next time you will turn the tables!

[dizzlmcwizzl]

The worst part about getting bageled is not that you lost. The worst part is that you might not get to play them again.


Sometimes feeling the sting of losing is a good thing ... it gives you motivation and this tells you that you need to get better.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by BabblingPsychopath

How humiliating. Double bageled in 48 minutes, including a 15 minute warmup.

My partner and I maybe scored 10 points. It seemed every ball the other team hit was a winner.

How long will the feeling that I never want to play again last?

Sorry to hear that. I had no idea. I double bageled some guys last summer but didn't know it was hurting them that much. I was on my game and my partner was better player than me too and he was on his game too after a bit of nervous start. Maybe I will make sure I give them couple of games next time.
but don't feel bad cause it really isn't you. This can happen if player or players gets on a roll and is in the Zone. Just get out there and play more matches and win a match or two then you will forget all about this one.

[dizzlmcwizzl]

Originally Posted by Buford T Justice

Yes the point is that tennis scoring exaggerates differences even if my numbers are off.

I understand that, statistically speaking, there is a 2% chance of winning a set 6-0 when winning half the points.

But yes, something like 6-3 would obviously be more likely.

Let me dig up the old book I had on this and see if I can find the percentages for reference.....

No ... I don't think you could evenly split the points and win 6-0. It is not possible because to win each game you must win 2 more points than your opponent. By the end you must win at least 12 more points.

[spot]

I don't understand why anyone not on the tour would be upset by losing. As a rec player there are literally tons of people that can double bagel you.

To me its far more heartbreaking to lose a close match to someone you think you should have easily beaten. No shame in getting whupped by someone who is just better than you.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by spot

I don't understand why anyone not on the tour would be upset by losing. As a rec player there are literally tons of people that can double bagel you.

To me its far more heartbreaking to lose a close match to someone you think you should have easily beaten. No shame in getting whupped by someone who is just better than you.

I feel the same way

[JoelDali]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

I feel the same way

I feel that one day you and I will lock ourselves in a hotel room in Paris and write the greatest screenplay of all time.

You are my Matt Damon.

I am your Ben Affleck.

[Nostradamus]

Originally Posted by JoelDali

I feel that one day you and I will lock ourselves in a hotel room in Paris and write the greatest screenplay of all time.

You are my Matt Damon.

I am your Ben Affleck.

Lets plan on that. and make sure you bring that girl in the Avatar for inspiration.

[JoelDali]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

Lets plan on that. and make sure you bring that girl in the Avatar for inspiration.

You don't give a damn.

That's what makes it even harder to accept that the dream will never come into fruition.

My mom always said the ones you truly loved hurt the most.

The world would have been a better place with us, within it. But your selfishness and proud heart torched the remains of what was left into a smoldering GOAT pile of Basalt Kevlar Leiona 66 ashes.

[OrangePower]

Originally Posted by dizzlmcwizzl

No ... I don't think you could evenly split the points and win 6-0. It is not possible because to win each game you must win 2 more points than your opponent. By the end you must win at least 12 more points.

You are quite right. I think the person that posted that misunderstood the stat he/she was quoting.

I haven't done the probabilities math myself, but I believe the stat is that if you are evenly matched with your opponent such that on every and any point there is a 50% chance of either player winning the point, then there is a 2% chance of the set ending up 6-0.