What Fed yelled to Murray at net

[Gonzalito17]

Thanks for the comments and insights.

[cueboyzn]

Federer got irritated that a couple of times Murray hesitated after he returned a ball near or on the baseline, and kind of putting some pressure for an 'out' call from the line judge in the middle of the point and then carrying on, when what any professional worth his salt would be doing is playing the ball and leaving the line judges to do their job, and if they are unhappy with a call, then use the challenge system. Fed does not take kindly to this kind of shenanigans and in the heat of the moment he let rip for what he perceived to be poor form and etiquette during play by his opponent. But then again, etiquette and good form on the court has never been Murray's strong suit.

[Hood_Man]

"Ein Volk! Ein Reich! Ein... place in the final & would you mind awfully stepping aside and allowing an old man like me another shot at the top?"

[Fugazi]

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[Fugazi]

Originally Posted by larlarbd

What's wrong w/being from Bangladesh ?

I'm from Bangladesh & had no trouble making ppl understand what I'm saying since day-1.

We Speak Great English, an American Speaks English w/Amrican accent , we speak english w/bengali-accent , maybe hard to pick up when speaking fast but I've had very few guys/gals telling me they don't understand me.

Don't be a joo. lol

You should definitely invest in a sarcasm detector.

[Tropikal_Knights]

"You talking to me?"

[Fugazi]

Originally Posted by mariecon

Gamesmanship is used to help you win, within the rules but by a small margin. How is yelling at Murray gamesmanship? Time wasting, unnecessary MTOs, excessive ball bouncing, pretending you're injured when you're not; These things are gamesmanship. Losing your temper is losing your temper. I've never heard someone say that smashing a racquet is gamesmanship. How is this different? It's a spontaneous outburst. Getting angry can just as easily have a negative effect on the person getting angry.

It was definitely a form of gamesmanship, although probably not as fully intentional and deliberate as other forms. Making your opponent feel like he didn't truly deserve a point that he won is definitely gonna rattle someone. It clearly changed the momentum.

[Hood_Man]

"Fun house!
A whole lot of fun,
Prizes to be won!"

[kalyan4fedever]

Originally Posted by LittleTinGoddess

Can you back that up w/ pics?

Fed hater pretending to be a fed fan pathetic waste of time

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by cueboyzn

Federer got irritated that a couple of times Murray hesitated after he returned a ball near or on the baseline, and kind of putting some pressure for an 'out' call from the line judge in the middle of the point and then carrying on, when what any professional worth his salt would be doing is playing the ball and leaving the line judges to do their job...

This is the best summation of what was going on imo and what annoyed Federer. I rewatched the match last night and Murray did, on a couple of occasions, stop as if waiting for the line call - and then continue. It's nothing major really but some could argue it's a form of deliberate distraction.

I feel for Federer here - I've played guys who appear to give up a point and lob it back and, for a moment, it is a distraction for sure. Then again, both players should really play to the linesman/umpire calls, as the saying goes.

[decrepitude]

My impression was he hesitated before playing it, as if unsure if it was going in. And of course it is a legitimate tactic in any case to wait and see which way your opponent is likely to move before hitting. After somebody has hit the ball you should be watching where the ball is going, not worrying what your opponent is doing.

[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

This is the best summation of what was going on imo and what annoyed Federer. I rewatched the match last night and Murray did, on a couple of occasions, stop as if waiting for the line call - and then continue. It's nothing major really but some could argue it's a form of deliberate distraction.

I feel for Federer here - I've played guys who appear to give up a point and lob it back and, for a moment, it is a distraction for sure. Then again, both players should really play to the linesman/umpire calls, as the saying goes.

Watch that point again, not other points where he actually did stop longer. Murray hardly hesitated on that base line return. Fed didn't yell "stop". He defamed Murray via his nationality. That's why Murray was all nod, nod "OK, if that's the way you want to play this..." faced when they put it on the slow replay.

Every single replay of this point has been edited to block out the closeup of yelling at the net. You can see it from above the court, but the other closeups from the side are all offline now.

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection

Watch that point again, not other points where he actually did stop longer. Murray hardly hesitated on that base line return. Fed didn't yell "stop". He defamed Murray via his nationality...

Every single replay of this point has been edited to block out the closeup of yelling at the net. You can see it from above the court, but the other closeups from the side are all offline now.

I didn't say he did it that point. I just assumed it was pent-up frustration from the previous times.

Also - I'm not sure what you mean by "he defamed Murray via his nationality..." that doesn't even make sense. I'll assume you're not a native English speaker so I'll just infer from it you meant he insulted Murray's nationality. If so, I disagree regardless - I don't think he said 'Scot' at all, I think he said 'stopped'.

As for every replay being edited to block that specific part of the game, I highly doubt there is some global conspiracy to edit out minute parts of matches which would actually serve to increase the popularity of the video. More like the videos have just been edited per se for time considerations or similar.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by cueboyzn

Federer got irritated that a couple of times Murray hesitated after he returned a ball near or on the baseline, and kind of putting some pressure for an 'out' call from the line judge in the middle of the point and then carrying on, when what any professional worth his salt would be doing is playing the ball and leaving the line judges to do their job, and if they are unhappy with a call, then use the challenge system. Fed does not take kindly to this kind of shenanigans and in the heat of the moment he let rip for what he perceived to be poor form and etiquette during play by his opponent. But then again, etiquette and good form on the court has never been Murray's strong suit.

Nonsense. Players do that all the time, hesitate for a second if the ball is close to the line.

[larry10s]

let me ask a question
at the net a ball right at your body
how good a shot can you hit off it???

[THE FIGHTER]

Originally Posted by fundrazer

At least try to be original...I've already heard this joke in regards to the Federer situation.

As much as Roger respects the younger group, I still think he gets a bit tired of some of the crap they try to pull. There's shady MTO's, Murray pretending he hurt himself, or whatever else. I haven't watched the full match, but I expect some frustration with the antics just boiled over.

are you insinuating that it isn't possible for the same joke regarding a public occurrence that correlates very closely to another public occurrence cannot be made by pure happenstance?

by the way, aiming to be original for the sake of being original sets you up for failure 9 times out of 10, since everything you could think of doing is either influenced by something or to a degree has been done before you've even completed the notion.

it's better to not care about being original, than to try your hardest at being original, in the end, both methods have similar chances of attaining originality.

btw, your second paragraph isn't very original, its been said before. regurgitation.

[Sid_Vicious]

I watched the recording again and I am now positive Federer said "TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW! YOU F*CKIN STUPID B*STARD!"

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

You were never a fan of Federer before.

I have a proven record of being a moderate (reasonable) supporter of Federer on this forum. I give other players credit when it's due.

But after you saw how he behaved against Murray, you are now the biggest Federer fan on the planet!

What part of "starting to lose respect" in my post did you miss?

[tlm]

Originally Posted by cueboyzn

Federer got irritated that a couple of times Murray hesitated after he returned a ball near or on the baseline, and kind of putting some pressure for an 'out' call from the line judge in the middle of the point and then carrying on, when what any professional worth his salt would be doing is playing the ball and leaving the line judges to do their job, and if they are unhappy with a call, then use the challenge system. Fed does not take kindly to this kind of shenanigans and in the heat of the moment he let rip for what he perceived to be poor form and etiquette during play by his opponent. But then again, etiquette and good form on the court has never been Murray's strong suit.

Oh I see fed can act like a jerk and yell at his opponent but it was all Murrays fault somehow. The fanboys never see the obvious, no matter how shameful their egomaniac hero acts it is okay in their world of fantasy-land.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by tlm

Oh I see fed can act like a jerk and yell at his opponent but it was all Murrays fault somehow. The fanboys never see the obvious, no matter how shameful their egomaniac hero acts it is okay in their world of fantasy-land.

Standard operating procedure for the TW planet ****s.