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Old 01-27-2013, 11:23 PM   #41
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He's not the GOAT of the Aussie Open, he's around the same group as the Edberg/Wilander/Becker.
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He's not the GOAT of the Aussie Open, he's around the same group as the Edberg/Wilander/Becker.
Many would agree that Djokovic is better than Edberg, Becker and Wilander...
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:48 AM   #43
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He's not the GOAT of the Aussie Open, he's around the same group as the Edberg/Wilander/Becker.


Ha ha sure. The guy who has 4 AO titles of which 3 consecutive (which nobody else has ever done at AO) is in the same category as guys like Edberg and Becker who have won only 2 total or Wilander who has won 3. Nice trolling. Djokovic is in the same group as Federer and Agassi (in open era), meaning the top group but the 3 titles in a row propels him ahead of even those 2.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:54 AM   #44
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He probably is the 5fth best player in the Open era. 1. Rodger 2. Nadal 3. Sampras 4. Iceman 5. Djocovic.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:25 PM   #45
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I could see Djokovic start owning the French Open if Nadal's health keeps failing him over the next few years. Nole's defensive counterpunching style of play is so conducive to clay court play, it's hard not seeing him roll off a few RGs. Fed's reign of being the 2nd best clay courter in the world seems over, so the door's open.

Unless Rafa gets back to business, AO/FO could become a thing for the Djoker. I realize that this is a crazy-sounding thing to say given that he's yet to win a single Roland-Garros
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Ha ha sure. The guy who has 4 AO titles of which 3 consecutive (which nobody else has ever done at AO) is in the same category as guys like Edberg and Becker who have won only 2 total or Wilander who has won 3. Nice trolling. Djokovic is in the same group as Federer and Agassi (in open era), meaning the top group but the 3 titles in a row propels him ahead of even those 2.
By that logic, Federer is the Wimbledon GOAT and the USO GOAT. Right?
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:16 AM   #47
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I think he surpasses Becker, Edberg, and Wilander firmly at this point. None of those guys were ever so consistent for 6 years plus as Djokovic has been, were solidly the best player in the World for over 2, had a year like Djokovics 2011 (Wilander in 1988 had 3 slams, but not the dominance of the regular tour of Djokovic, and barely even got to number 1 over slamless Lendl), were as good across all types of surfaces.Only in slam count are they comparable at this point.

I see him on par with people like Newcombe, Hoad, and Perry right now, but a bit behind Agassi and McEnroe. He will be on par with Agassi and McEnroe when he wins his 7th slams, and on par with Lendl, Connors, when he wins his 8th. Actually if he wins the French to make it a career slam (which he probably will this year) he moves up even faster than that.
Except that consistency is much more consistent today than in the past due to playing conditions (seeding system, homogenization), and thus not that impressive. He has a windows opportunity to go up the ladder, but right now he is far from Connors and Lendl, and winning 8th slams won't be enough to catch with them.
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ahead of laver and connors?

IMO he must win at least win 10 majors to pass connors (yeah I know he has 8 but he has a lot more weeks at one and tournament wins-yeah a lot of them were mickey mouse) and 15 to pass laver (who won 2 CYGS and would have easily won 18+ if not for his break from the majors due to turning pro).
Yeah. I'm pretty sure Djokovic will get to 10 Grand Slams. And I really think that if you were to put Prime Djokovic and Prime Laver on a Tennis court, Djokovic would murder him, figuratively speaking.
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:43 AM   #49
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Yeah. I'm pretty sure Djokovic will get to 10 Grand Slams. And I really think that if you were to put Prime Djokovic and Prime Laver on a Tennis court, Djokovic would murder him, figuratively speaking.
Djokovic cried because he had to play on a slippery blue clay. How would he react if he had to run and slide with some 50's shoes? Not so well.
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Djokovic cried because he had to play on a slippery blue clay. How would he react if he had to run and slide with some 50's shoes? Not so well.
Prime Laver couldn't deal with Grandpa Pancho. How would he deal with a beast like Prime Djokovic?
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:00 AM   #51
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Prime Laver couldn't deal with Grandpa Pancho. How would he deal with a beast like Prime Djokovic?
In which conditions? I don't care for match-up. They are only match-up. Prime Djokovic couldn't deal with Grandpa Roddick.
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:02 AM   #52
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1. Lance Armstrong
2. Ben Johnson
3. Novak Djokovic
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Old 01-29-2013, 04:04 AM   #53
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1. Lance Armstrong
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Clarky is really having an influence...
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Clarky is really having an influence...
you have to admit, this is funny.
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sorry I meant this is funny!
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Ha ha sure. The guy who has 4 AO titles of which 3 consecutive (which nobody else has ever done at AO) is in the same category as guys like Edberg and Becker who have won only 2 total or Wilander who has won 3. Nice trolling. Djokovic is in the same group as Federer and Agassi (in open era), meaning the top group but the 3 titles in a row propels him ahead of even those 2.
Do not pay attention to that banned troll
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:27 AM   #57
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After winning his sixth slam and becoming the AO GOAT (4 titles, including 3 consecutive), where would you rank Djokovic among Open Era greats? *

As well as his slams, he has two years as world No 1, two YECs and has won 7 of the 9 Masters series events.

For me, Djokovic is now ahead of Wilander, Becker and Edberg.

He is still a bit short of the Lendl/Connors/Agassi/McEnroe tier though (and some way short of Fed/Sampras/Borg/Nadal).

Thus I would rank him 9th in the Open Era at present.

* Players who played their whole career in the Open Era.
Good assesment but I would put him in the second group (Lendl and company) tied with Agassi and Lendl.
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Many would agree that Djokovic is better than Edberg, Becker and Wilander...
Very hard to assess. All these guy had premier games and in any given day would lose or win one against the other. Its like asking, are the Miami Heat better or worse than the 90s Bulls or better or worse than the 80s Celtics and Lakers?
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:58 PM   #59
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I'm so tired of people dismissing Djokovic. He proved that he's a true champion, and he'll prove even more.

You fans of Fedal era really act like babies sometimes. Tenis evolves and changes, like everything else. Get over it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:39 PM   #60
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1. Federer
2. Sampras
3. Nadal
4. Borg
5. Connors
6. Agassi
7. Lendl
8. McEnroe
9. Djokovic
10. Laver

Would be my overall Open Era only rankings at this point. Djokovic could easily be number 5 by years end only though. Laver`s Grand Slam in 69 is overall worth more than the entire careers of Becker, Edberg, and Wilander btw.
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