Völkl C10 Pro Club!

[PhrygianDominant]

Originally Posted by mrmike

I have a similar problem with slight lack of control on my groundstrokes with the C10 Pro. The problem is my arm can't take poly strings, even in a hybrid. I posed a question in another thread for Chris from TW. He suggested Ashaway Dynamite 16 tough or going with a thicker gauge string like 15L or 15. Haven't had a chance to try this yet.

Originally Posted by SteveI

How about a thick Natty Gut like Pac Tough Gut 15L a few lbs over mid?

No recommendations for a poly, that will give me a crisper feel on the ball? I am not that experienced in strings, so I don't know how to phrase this question better.

[mrmike]

Originally Posted by SteveI

How about a thick Natty Gut like Pac Tough Gut 15L a few lbs over mid?

Thanks, that may be worth a try. I know it's a little pricey, but I am not a big string breaker and gut maintains playability for a long time. One of Chris's other suggestions was a thick gauge gut / synthetic gut hybrid. May consider that also. That would cut down the cost per stringing a bit.

[SteveI]

Originally Posted by mrmike

Thanks, that may be worth a try. I know it's a little pricey, but I am not a big string breaker and gut maintains playability for a long time. One of Chris's other suggestions was a thick gauge gut / synthetic gut hybrid. May consider that also. That would cut down the cost per stringing a bit.

Chris knows his stuff... both set-ups would make sense. You could get into the Tough Gut/Syn Gut (I would use Forten Sweet 16) for a decent price and and it would last much longer than any poly set-up and be wonderful on your arm. The tension would hold up also.

[suyema]

For those that use leather grip for your C10 Pro's, which leather grip do you prefer out of Volkl, Head, Wilson, or Babolat??

~Thanks

[gonzalocatalino]

Originally Posted by suyema

For those that use leather grip for your C10 Pro's, which leather grip do you prefer out of Volkl, Head, Wilson, or Babolat??

~Thanks

As the racquets are heavy enough, i'll go with a thin and light leather. In my case, i've the 3 c10 2008's with head std. Leather grip (heavily used, so they feel very thin and compressed). I've installed brand new babolats on the 2012 c10's and Right now i'm trying to get used to them, because i feel the grip a bit big with the new ones...

Never used the Volkl leather grips, but from what i´ve ear here, is one of the heaviest, so, i would avoid them for this racquet.

[FischerFan]

Originally Posted by suyema

For those that use leather grip for your C10 Pro's, which leather grip do you prefer out of Volkl, Head, Wilson, or Babolat??

~Thanks

Best one I've tried is a Pacific.

[Bodycamp13]

Just want to say...I've NEVER crushed OHBH like I do with this frame.

Unreal! Rivals my FH now!

Currently using Cyclone 16 @ 52 but that stuff dies quickly. I'll be changing I think.

Anyone play this frame with BB Alu? What tension?

[Junkie74]

I found this to be a good racquet, but I did felt some twinges and stiffness around my elbow halfway through the match. Anyone had this problem before?

[Ross K]

Originally Posted by Junkie74

I found this to be a good racquet, but I did felt some twinges and stiffness around my elbow halfway through the match. Anyone had this problem before?

What strings (poly presumably) were you using? How long had they been?

Going back over quite a few years now, I can't say I've ever had anything remotely bordering on elbow twinges/pains playing with a C10. It's one mega-comfy, soft-flexing frame, for me anyhow.

[Bodycamp13]

It ain't the racquet. I can hit two hours solid and this is the most comfortable frame I've played. I play Cyclone 16 at 52 or 54 right now - will prob change though. This frame with a multi would be rediculously comfortable.

[mrmike]

Originally Posted by Bodycamp13

It ain't the racquet. I can hit two hours solid and this is the most comfortable frame I've played. I play Cyclone 16 at 52 or 54 right now - will prob change though. This frame with a multi would be rediculously comfortable.

You are right, I recently had Discho Microfibre 16 multi in one of my C10's at 60lb and it was super comfortable but unfortunately also a rocket launcher after about 5 sessions. Originally I purchased the frame from TW with Volkl Power Fiber II and that was a firmer multi but I had much better control with it.

[gonzalocatalino]

I´ve played the C10 with my usual hibrid (WC Scorpion/WC Explosiv! @60), getting the best feel, comfort and power. Now i´m using some racquets with a full blend of Scorpion at 55lbs (best for spin and control) and some other with full WC Turbo Twist at 57, the first hour this string was too stiff, but now is feeling great, decent spin and very comfortable.

[mrmike]

Originally Posted by SteveI

How about a thick Natty Gut like Pac Tough Gut 15L a few lbs over mid?

I strung up one of my C10 Pros with Pacific tough gut 15L full bed @ 58 lbs. It's been a long time since I tried natural gut since I had a bad experience snapping a new set on the stringer. This time, armed with a lot more string jobs under my belt, it went well. This string was comfortable from the first hit and very responsive. Maybe a little less spin potential than the thinner gauges of synthetic I had been using. As comfortable as it is, shots are still quite controllable. No shoulder or arm pain after playing whatsoever. It's definitely pricey, but I plan to leave it on this frame till it breaks and keep nylon on my backup. Thanks for the suggestion!

[suyema]

Just got 2 c10 pros (2010 version) recently (purchased, used, from tw member)and played a couple hours of doubles my first time out with these beautiful yellow frames. It came with kevlar mains (50 lbs) and co-poly cross (55 lbs).

The c10 pros felt nice and hefty, and flexible. Coming from a POG mid, I still like the feel, control, and manueverability of the POG mid. Surprisingly the c10 pros swing weight (325) felt noticeably heavier than my POG Mid (TW reissue 32?? Their static weight are similar, both 343 grams (TW), I believe.

I suppose it will take some time getting use to along with experimenting w/diff string set-ups. One thing I just couldn't understand was, i felt like I was consistently missing the sweet spot on the c10 pro (98 sq in) vs. the POG mid (93 sq in) i'm hitting the sweet spot effortlessly.

Needless to say, I won't be quitting on these frames anytime soon~

[suyema]

Just got 2 c10 pros (2010 version) recently (purchased, used, from tw member)and played a couple hours of doubles my first time out with these beautiful yellow frames. It came with kevlar mains (50 lbs) and co-poly cross (55 lbs).

The c10 pros felt nice and hefty, and flexible. Coming from a POG mid, I still like the feel, control, and manueverability of the POG mid. Surprisingly the c10 pros swing weight (325) felt noticeably heavier than my POG Mid (TW reissue 32?? Their static weight are similar, both 343 grams (TW), I believe.

I suppose it will take some time getting use to, along with experimenting w/diff string set-ups. One thing I just couldn't understand was, i felt like I was consistently missing the sweet spot on the c10 pro (98 sq in) vs. the POG mid (93 sq in) i'm hitting the sweet spot effortlessly.

Needless to say, I won't be quitting on these frames anytime soon~

[SteveI]

Originally Posted by mrmike

I strung up one of my C10 Pros with Pacific tough gut 15L full bed @ 58 lbs. It's been a long time since I tried natural gut since I had a bad experience snapping a new set on the stringer. This time, armed with a lot more string jobs under my belt, it went well. This string was comfortable from the first hit and very responsive. Maybe a little less spin potential than the thinner gauges of synthetic I had been using. As comfortable as it is, shots are still quite controllable. No shoulder or arm pain after playing whatsoever. It's definitely pricey, but I plan to leave it on this frame till it breaks and keep nylon on my backup. Thanks for the suggestion!

Glad it well for you. After listening to Chris's comment on this string set-ups.. The one I ordered during the wonderful sale they had during the holidays.. I picked the basic Wilson Syn Gut Extreme 16G.. which plays somewhat dead and is a thick string also. I know I will get no where near the perfomace out of the syn gut vs the natty.. but I wanted to get that similar feeling. I deader playing string seems to work well with C10 as Chris stated. The C10 is not really a low powered frame as some think. I might try some IsoSpeed Baseline 16G. Lower powered poly that is very soft and easy on the arm. Tension drops down fast... but for that price $40.00/reel.. I can re-string every 10 hours.

[mrmike]

I gotta mention that on my 2nd C10 frame (other one has 15L natural gut) I installed some Head RIP control 17 and it plays quite well. Just dead enough to kill off some of the C10's power but easy on the arm and still has some good pop. I have it at 60 lbs. For the $$'s, the RIP is a great match for this frame.

[SteveI]

Originally Posted by mrmike

I gotta mention that on my 2nd C10 frame (other one has 15L natural gut) I installed some Head RIP control 17 and it plays quite well. Just dead enough to kill off some of the C10's power but easy on the arm and still has some good pop. I have it at 60 lbs. For the $$'s, the RIP is a great match for this frame.

Yes.. Rip Control would be a wonderful match for this frame. Great idea.. I have some in my stock.. and the it is black/white.. and shuld also look great!

Thanks for the insights.

Steve

[mrmike]

Originally Posted by SteveI

Yes.. Rip Control would be a wonderful match for this frame. Great idea.. I have some in my stock.. and the it is black/white.. and shuld also look great!

Thanks for the insights.

Steve

Yeah, I was really pleasantly surprised on how well this stuff worked in the C10. When it's on the stringer it behaves like a poly. Very little elongation, yet it is easy on the arm. As others have said, a very unique string.

[SteveI]

Originally Posted by mrmike

Yeah, I was really pleasantly surprised on how well this stuff worked in the C10. When it's on the stringer it behaves like a poly. Very little elongation, yet it is easy on the arm. As others have said, a very unique string.

Yes.. very unique and at a nice price. When you string it you think it is really going to play stiff. The only probelm I had was breaking it a bit too soon to be cost effective for me. It may hold up better in the c 10. Time will tell. Did you do a full bed?