Randy Moss.......

[LeeD]

Every opponent is aware of the tall skinny guy who hurts them. Starting with PeeWee football anyways.
You hit them in the middle, hopefully they get shellshocked and don't wanna get hit.
BillyWilson of the 49'ers had that to contend with.
Look at Gronk of the Patriots.
And yes, I saw the earlier Vikings Moss version. You took him out of his comfort zone by bumping him at the line, then subtle handchecks down the field, bumping him if you had the speed.
That's why he got soo many pass interference calls in his favor.

[stringertom]

Ironic that this thread was listed immediately adjacent to the "useless information" thread until this poast. Moss has succeeded in getting everybody all riled up with his ludicrous contention. Best deep threat ever...possibly; best WR ever...dream on!

[TMF]

Terrell Owen believe he's better than Randy Moss. He said Rice is 1 and he's 1A.

“You haven’t heard much from Randy all year,” Owens said Wednesday. “Makes you raise an eyebrow a little. The guy must have had a few drinks. I’ve played with the greatest, Jerry Rice. I saw the performance, the preparation, the practices.

“Jerry’s No. 1 and I’ll be 1A,” Owens said. “My body of work speaks for itself.”



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz2Jbq4Eseh

[LeeD]

I remember an old ESPN show where MichaelIrving said HE was the greatest wide reciever in football....

[TMF]

Originally Posted by LeeD

I remember an old ESPN show where MichaelIrving said HE was the greatest wide reciever in football....

Here's the latest quote from Irvin...

"Randy's done a wonderful job in the NFL. He's done some wonderful things," Irvin said. "Numbers do count and especially when they lead to victories. That's why I think everybody has to capitulate when it comes to talking about greatest receiver. Bar none, nobody's having a conversation. It is Jerry Rice, period."

Irvin: Rice better receiver 'period', not Moss

[LeeD]

That's not what he said over 10 years ago, when Rice was done.

[Fearsome Forehand]

Rice played through the 2004 season and quit in 2005/06. Irvin is correct, stat wise, there is no conversation. Again, it is impossible to compare great players from different eras. Coincidentally, today is the 100th anniversary of Don Hutson's birthday; the player who revolutionized the concept of the end position.

[LeeD]

I wonder.
And have been wondering since I was 12 years old.
Do other's judge you on your worst performance, and the end of your career? Do they always remember the days you struggle, stumble, and bumble your way to the end?
While you judge yourself on your best day in your prime when biorythum and god's favor shines on you?
Most of my peers like to downplay and joke about our past, especially when it's a date they didn't perform up to expectations.
I'm the 3rd sentence above, sorry.

[TMF]

Some response from the ex pro players:

Ray Buchanan: "He has not at all obeyed protocol for wide receivers. And with all due respect to Randy Moss, I had to do a lot more film study to get ready for Jerry because I had to get ready for every route. He ran every route available, to perfection, and he ran them all the same, so it was almost impossible to stop. With Randy, I didn't even have to watch film, because it was all about the 'Go' route."

"With Moss, it was like checkers. With Rice, it was like chess. It was a totally different ballgame. I'm gonna be honest with you – a lot of defensive backs don't want to mention that we're nervous or intimidated at our position. We've got our egos that are strong. But me coming from Indy and coming to [the Falcons in] that division [with the 49ers], I honestly had tornado storms in my stomach."

Marshall Faulk: When I asked Hall of Fame running back Marshall Faulk about the Rice vs. Moss debate, he answered, "What debate? Why do I need to comment on something that doesn't even merit discussion?"

Cris Carter: "I wish Randy had said 'greatest deep threat' instead of 'greatest receiver,' " Carter said. "Jerry struck a lot of fear in defenders, but there was a whole different set of fear with Randy. He could gut you right now. He could score from anywhere on the field. And from an athletic standpoint, there is nothing I would take Jerry Rice over Randy on.

"Jerry is more complete. When it came to route running and yards after the catch, a term they invented because of Jerry, he was the greatest. Most of all, when Jerry stands before God, he'll have gotten everything possible out of his ability. When Randy stands before God, he'll still have some left."

Eric Davis: "Jerry is the greatest receiver, period," Davis said. "You had to defend the entire field, because he ran every route. Randy, with his size and speed and hands, is the greatest deep threat we've ever seen. There's a reason we called him a 'freak.' There are very few that have ever had that type of impact. But he would still fall short of Jerry Rice, the greatest impact player the game has ever seen."

[West Coast Ace]

Did anyone say "greatest legend in his own mind" yet?

When he was trying, he probably was one of the most feared deep threats. But his motivation came and went with a change of the wind. He was never known as a guy to go to on 3rd and 11 and count on him running a route just long enough to make sure he got the 1st down. And he definitely got 'alligator arms' when asked to go over the middle.

But he's entitled to his opinion - and to be wrong.