Agassi, Wilander: Nadal wont be winning Roland Garros

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Why is Nadal being subjected to multiple **** tests yet Nole hasn't taken one in what is it? Close to a year?

They're promoting the new rivalry, don't you know? The Nolandy rivalry. Whatever would they do if they caught one of the new golden boys doping?

[Monsieur_DeLarge]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Why is Nadal being subjected to multiple **** tests yet Nole hasn't taken one in what is it? Close to a year?

He hasn't had a blood test in six months. I'm pretty sure he's had to give samples for urinalysis in that time.


Regards,
MDL

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Monsieur_DeLarge

He hasn't had a blood test in six months. I'm pretty sure he's had to give samples for urinalysis in that time.


Regards,
MDL

Nadal has had 8 blood and urine tests within 2 weeks time last month. That goes along with the 4 blood and urine tests he received within one week in December. Lance has not had a single blood test in 7 months, and who knows the last time he was OOC tested at all. Not even remotely fair or anywhere near even.

[kishnabe]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Nadal has had 8 blood and urine tests within 2 weeks time last month. That goes along with the 4 blood and urine tests he received within one week in December. Lance has not had a single blood test in 7 months, and who knows the last time he was OOC tested at all. Not even remotely fair or anywhere near even.

ATP knows...and is hiding Djoker away from tests to prevent damage of the sport. They caught him in 2011 where he was clearly doping.

[RAFA2005RG]

Are Wilander and Agassi ever right? They always seem to be proven wrong.

[Cup8489]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Why is Nadal being subjected to multiple **** tests yet Nole hasn't taken one in what is it? Close to a year?

How do you know that?

[Tony48]

Tested four times in 2 weeks? Holy crap that's a lot.

Anyway, that's surprising to hear that Agassi is doubting Nadal at RG. 8 months off tour or not, Nadal basically IS RG.

But if he doesn't win it and Djoker does, that'll be fine with me

[THE FIGHTER]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

Same with Nadal....Nadal can just Serena the French open.

how can nadal threaten RG? it's his livelihood.

[NadalAgassi]

The talk about Murray having a real chance to win RG, or of having a better shot to win RG than Nadal while Nadal still has a pulse, is already enough to laugh off the whole article and anything Wilander especialy says. Ferrer is more a contender to win RG than Murray, and will likely beat Murray again if they play at RG, barring some significant clay improvements from Murray. Heck I would give Del Potro or Berdych more chances to win RG than Murray. The talk about Olderer being more a contender to win RG than Nadal until Nadal has officialy withdrawn from RG or lost several first rounds in a row is also quite the joke. Been on the weed again Mats have we.

[THE FIGHTER]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

The talk about Murray having a real chance to win RG, or of having a better shot to win RG than Nadal while Nadal still has a pulse, is already enough to laugh off the whole article and anything Wilander especialy says. Ferrer is more a contender to win RG than Murray, and will likely beat Murray again if they play at RG, barring some significant clay improvements from Murray. Heck I would give Del Potro or Berdych more chances to win RG than Murray. The talk about Olderer being more a contender to win RG than Nadal until Nadal has officialy withdrawn from RG or lost several first rounds in a row is also quite the joke. Been on the weed again Mats have we.

ferrer could win RG if he doesnt face any of the real top 4. i dont see him getting over that hump in the big stages. despite being the 4th best clay courter. he doesn't have that level of belief that guys like del potro or soderling had. he also doesn't have a game that matches up well against the top 4.

[NadalAgassi]

Ferrer would have the edge in a match on clay vs Murray, just as he always has had in the past. On any other surface all the top 4 would own him (maybe a small chance vs Nadal on hards), but on clay he has the edge on Murray. He even has a great clay record vs Djokovic, but Djokovic will still beat him if they play at RG.

[THE FIGHTER]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

Ferrer would have the edge in a match on clay vs Murray, just as he always has had in the past. On any other surface all the top 4 would own him (maybe a small chance vs Nadal on hards), but on clay he has the edge on Murray. He even has a great clay record vs Djokovic, but Djokovic will still beat him if they play at RG.

last year was the only time ferrer beat murray on the big stage. ferrer under preforms on clay in the big stages, and big stages in general. in the past 4 years, he's only made it past the 4th round at RG once, last year, whereas murray has done it 3 times.

in his entire career at RG, ferrer amassed 2 QFs and 1 SF, the same figures as murray despite murray participating in just over half as many RGs.

that's not a great stat to have if you're david ferrer. great on clay in smaller tournaments, but cant bring the heat in the big stages.

if this was a tune up to RG, edge ferrer all the way. but this is RG itself. it's up in the air. i dont favor ferrer over anyone in the top 4 + rafa. i dont see either ferrer or murray winning RG.

[zagor]

Originally Posted by The_Order

LOL at Pat Cash, didn't he say Nadal couldn't win 4 RG in a row before he slaughtered Fed in that 08 final?

We'll have to see how his form is going in to the French Open before we can make a good call on this. It's still months away and during those months he is set for a lot of clay match practice. He is the greatest clay courter of all time so I can't imagine it'll take too long for him to feel at home on his favorite surface.

I predict he'll probably win these 250 tourney's coming up but with okish form, then he'll probably lose IW and Miami earlier than his results last year, then he'll head into the clay masters seasons, pick up form as Monte Carlo goes by, win Barcelona and from there his confidence will be back.

You're not disagreeing with the former tennis pros are you? Isn't their opinion infallible?

Especially if Agassi (his opinion being such a golden standard) says Nadal isn't winning FO this year then I guess we can conclude that as a fact.

[kalyan4fedever]

If a one dimensional player like djoker wins RG then we can declare tennis to be dead

[zagor]

Originally Posted by NadalAgassi

The talk about Murray having a real chance to win RG, or of having a better shot to win RG than Nadal while Nadal still has a pulse, is already enough to laugh off the whole article and anything Wilander especialy says. Ferrer is more a contender to win RG than Murray, and will likely beat Murray again if they play at RG, barring some significant clay improvements from Murray. Heck I would give Del Potro or Berdych more chances to win RG than Murray. The talk about Olderer being more a contender to win RG than Nadal until Nadal has officialy withdrawn from RG or lost several first rounds in a row is also quite the joke. Been on the weed again Mats have we.

Yeah, Wilander is full of it as usual, the guy used to make some sense back in the day but in the last few years he just spews nonsense all the time.

Agassi atleast makes a solid point but as far as I'm concerned as long as Nadal enters FO he's a favourite or at worst a co-favourite with Novak.

[DeShaun]

Originally Posted by kishnabe

ATP knows...and is hiding Djoker away from tests to prevent damage of the sport. They caught him in 2011 where he was clearly doping.

This would not surprise me. Novak does a decent job of trying to imitate Roger's prowess as a pitchman for the sport. Nobody does it as well as Roger the silky smooth polyglot. But Novak can speak a little Spanish, a little French, a little Russian, some decent German, as well as fluent Serbian and English.

So, if a guy like Roger tests positive, the same interests promoting the sport as condoning these tests have incentive the results. This "getting a free pass" may go similarly for Novak being an amiable, talkative spokesman who can promote the sport off court.

But now look at Rafa; suppose he tested positive after Wimbledon 2012. What are the promoters thinking at this point? "Well, Novak represents us better abroad; besides, Novak didn't take over the players' council and try to make all kinds of potential trouble for us there; not to mention that Novak so demolished Rafa last year that maybe Rafa's brand isn't even worth our protecting anymore. Why don't we flat out bench Rafa for six months, instead of the usual slap on the wrist?"

Yeah, I kind of believe that they caught Novak between 2011 and 2012 and told him to be smarter or stay clean which explains his dip in level from 2011 to 2012. I say "dip" because he seems to be ramping back up to his 2011 form again. I believe that when these big guys test positive, they are given passes until they cross a line.

[Hood_Man]

Bold predictions. If he doesn't, then I can see him losing early though. I can't imagine Nadal losing a final at Roland Garros.

[Warmaster]

Trollander at it again?

[Cesc Fabregas]

Wilander has always underestimated Nadal as a player for some reason.

[beast of mallorca]

Originally Posted by Cesc Fabregas

Wilander has always underestimated Nadal as a player for some reason.

It's called jealousy..........