Nadal says that his knee still hurts

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by mariecon

Tell us then, why did the ITF find it necessary to test Nadal "6 or 7 times" since he announced he was coming back? Doesn't that seem a little much for an organization that has been seriously lax in its testing?

Read it and weep... http://www.iol.co.za/sport/tennis/ne...3#.UQxjeh0TJqU


I'd like to hear your reasoning. Why test a player, who has apparently been out with an injury, that many times? Or are the ITF conspiracy theorists too?

Lol, ask the ITF.  Just like you yourself would like to know why Novak seems to have been tested so little.

They went and tested Rafa after the French puppet show, so it doesn't look like their reasons make that much sense.

Originally Posted by DragonBlaze

But what's the point of saying that? I mean except for aggravating the Nadal fan base? IF Nadal is doping, well then 100% so are Federer, Djokovic and Murray. Thus in that case there really is no need to single Nadal out.

If Nadal isn't doping, then all the "extra" suspicion on him means jack sh-t anyway, and so again there is no need to single him out.

Thus what does anyone accomplish by saying there is "more suspicion" on Nadal? Until unless you are just in a trolling mood, I just don't see the point.

As for the topic, sucks about Nadal's pain, I thought he would have recovered by now from that atleast.

Great post.

Originally Posted by cc0509

You should talk. Is there anything that has come from the Nadal camp that you haven't believed? If so, I have yet to see it. Is "gullible" your middle name?

Lol, my middle name?. It's you who goes: "it's all over the internet, so it must be true!".

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Lol, my middle name?. It's you who goes: "it's all over the internet, so it must be true!".

The fact that it is on the internet does not make me believe that it may be true, it is the fact that there have been clues and circumstantial evidence bubbling around Nadal for almost as many years as he has been playing from different sources, not just one source. Again, I think that PED's are a big part of pro sports and I would say most if not all of the elite athletes have dabbled at some point in PED's. Try reading the news to see what goes on and what has gone on in all sports over the years, it may help, although in your case I doubt it.

If Nadal stated tomorrow that he was able to walk on water and part the Red Sea, you would believe it no doubt.

[loci]

he's lowering expectations.

[Crisstti]

Originally Posted by cc0509

The fact that it is on the internet does not make me believe that it may be true, it is the fact that there have been clues and circumstantial evidence bubbling around Nadal for almost as many years as he has been playing from different sources, not just one source. Again, I think that PED's are a big part of pro sports and I would say most if not all of the elite athletes have dabbled at some point in PED's. Try reading the news to see what goes on and what has gone on in all sports over the years, it may help, although in your case I doubt it.

If Nadal stated tomorrow that he was able to walk on water and part the Red Sea, you would believe it no doubt.

Yes it does, you've said so yourself.

Nope, there's no circumstantial evidence when it comes to Nadal. Him being out injured is NOT circumstantial evidence.

But I'm not wasting any more of my time arguing with you, you don't let anything challenge your preconceived notions.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Yes it does, you've said so yourself.

Nope, there's no circumstantial evidence when it comes to Nadal. Him being out injured is NOT circumstantial evidence.

But I'm not wasting any more of my time arguing with you, you don't let anything challenge your preconceived notions.

I do not believe everything on the internet and I never said that the internet is the only source on information.

There is tons of circumstantial evidence re Nadal, not just the absences due to injury. You are too much of a blind fan to see it. You believe everything that comes out of the Nadal camp, that tells me everything I need to know about you. The only thing you question re Nadal is fishing and who gives a hoot about that?


You are right, don't waste any more time arguing with me, you are terrible at it.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Crisstti

Lol, ask the ITF.  Just like you yourself would like to know why Novak seems to have been tested so little.

They went and tested Rafa after the French puppet show, so it doesn't look like their reasons make that much sense.

LOL I love it when ********s deflect away from their hero and instead bring up Federer or Djokovic rather than answering the question. So I'll ask again, why did the ITF find it necessary to test Nadal "6 or 7 times" since he announced he was coming back? ***crickets***? Just as I thought. They tested him so many times because either a) he's been serving a silent ban or b) they know he couldn't have recovered from his supposed knee injury without help.

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by mariecon

LOL I love it when ********s deflect away from their hero and instead bring up Federer or Djokovic rather than answering the question. So I'll ask again, why did the ITF find it necessary to test Nadal "6 or 7 times" since he announced he was coming back? ***crickets***? Just as I thought. They tested him so many times because either a) he's been serving a silent ban or b) they know he couldn't have recovered from his supposed knee injury without help.

This is just pathetic. Djokovic isn't tested in 6 months : "He's doping!"
Nadal is tested 4 times : "He dopes!"

Just pathetic.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

This is just pathetic. Djokovic isn't tested in 6 months : "He's doping!"
Nadal is tested 4 times : "He dopes!"

Just pathetic.

when did I say that?

[Prisoner of Birth]

Originally Posted by mariecon

when did I say that?

Not you, specifically. The ***** in general.

[Tennis_Hands]

Originally Posted by Prisoner of Birth

Not you, specifically. The ***** in general.

Let's face it.

With the current testing, 0 tests and 10 tests will yield the same result, unless the player and his team are total retards.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by mariecon

LOL I love it when ********s deflect away from their hero and instead bring up Federer or Djokovic rather than answering the question. So I'll ask again, why did the ITF find it necessary to test Nadal "6 or 7 times" since he announced he was coming back? ***crickets***? Just as I thought. They tested him so many times because either a) he's been serving a silent ban or b) they know he couldn't have recovered from his supposed knee injury without help.

It is all PR maneuvering on behalf of the ITF. Say we tested Nadal 6 or 7 times and people will believe we are serious about catching dopers. They aren't serious about catching dopers. The big players can afford the best drugs which are ahead of the testers and even if these big players fail a drug test and get caught, we won't know about it. They will only throw out a lesser player being caught every now and then.

[fps]

Originally Posted by cc0509

The fact that it is on the internet does not make me believe that it may be true, it is the fact that there have been clues and circumstantial evidence bubbling around Nadal for almost as many years as he has been playing from different sources, not just one source. Again, I think that PED's are a big part of pro sports and I would say most if not all of the elite athletes have dabbled at some point in PED's. Try reading the news to see what goes on and what has gone on in all sports over the years, it may help, although in your case I doubt it.

If Nadal stated tomorrow that he was able to walk on water and part the Red Sea, you would believe it no doubt.

I don't think you understand what *circumstantial evidence* means. You may need to educate yourself on that one.

As another poster said, if Nadal's doping they all are at the top.

[Gonzalito17]

Maybe there's a power struggle at the top of tennis and they want to take Nadal out of the equation for some mysterious reason?

What is the motive for Nadal being so extensively tested?

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by cc0509

It is all PR maneuvering on behalf of the ITF. Say we tested Nadal 6 or 7 times and people will believe we are serious about catching dopers. They aren't serious about catching dopers. The big players can afford the best drugs which are ahead of the testers and even if these big players fail a drug test and get caught, we won't know about it. They will only throw out a lesser player being caught every now and then.

Even if they did test him that many times they probably told him it was coming so he could be prepared. It's become an frigging joke. You know this guy's gonna come back as if he was never away and no one will ask the questions. Knee, my *****.

[Bartelby]

If the testing regime is inadequate then theyre all suspect and not just the ones we dislike.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

If the testing regime is inadequate then theyre all suspect and not just the ones we dislike.

I agree. But some are more suspect than others.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by mariecon

Even if they did test him that many times they probably told him it was coming so he could be prepared. It's become an frigging joke. You know this guy's gonna come back as if he was never away and no one will ask the questions. Knee, my *****.

I agree with you. That is why I just shake my head and laugh at people who think he is really badly injured and done. He'll be running around like a demon on the clay of Roland Garros soon. He will keep the "knee injury" in close proximity just in case he needs to use it as an excuse.

[Bartelby]

None are more suspect than others. The suspicion that falls on certain players varies in proportion to how well they do against Federer.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Bartelby

None are more suspect than others. The suspicion that falls on certain players varies in proportion to how well they do against Federer.

that's complete b.s.

Djokovic is suspect because of his sudden domination in 2011 and his 7 match win streak against Nadal. Nadal is suspect because he never tires. Plays 5 setter after 5 setter and looks fresh as a daisy (among other things such as mysterious layoffs and tournament withdrawals).

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by fps

I don't think you understand what *circumstantial evidence* means. You may need to educate yourself on that one.

As another poster said, if Nadal's doping they all are at the top.

Um, no, I know exactly what it means and I stand by my statement.

I think the guys at the top probably all dope but there has certainly been more attention and suspicion around certain players over the years.