Whats your top 10 of all time right now?

[forzamilan90]

Originally Posted by kiki

One thing is artristry ( there haave been many extraordinary) and the other is genious: the ability to take things and leave them in another level before you took them.I talked about genious.

ok some of the people I consider geniuses in that field of creativity:
composers (Beethoven, Mozart, etc.)
musicians (Led zep, george michael, pink floyd, jean michele jarre, tiesto, tupac, marvin gaye, a bunch of bulgarian musicians that you wouldn't know, etc. this is where i can go on and list a 100, i see geniuses in all types of music)

[kiki]

I talk about what I know, not about what i don´t.

Probably there have been also genious-like musicians in Africa we never heard of.

To me, the difference of a genious and an artrist is the fact that the genious sets new standarts.

[Phoenix1983]

Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Let's try this;

Tennis Music

1) Hoad Bach
2) Gonzales Beethoven
3) Laver Mozart
4) Federer Wagner
5) Rosewall Handel
6) Budge Brahms
7) Vines Verdi
Kramer Debussy
9) Sampras Mahler
10) Borg Bartok
11) McEnroe Berlioz
12) Sedgman Stravinsky

There is no point-by-point similarity here, other than relative stature.
The music list is top-weighted with Germans and Austrians, the tennis list with Australians and Americans.
The composers belong to an older era.

This is for popular (rock era) musicians only;

1. Roger Federer = John Lennon
2. Rod Laver = Paul McCartney
3. Pete Sampras = Bob Dylan
4. Bjorn Borg = Jimmy Page
5. Rafael Nadal = Jimi Hendrix
6. Ken Rosewall = Bob Marley
7. Pancho Gonzales = Elvis Presley
8. Don Budge = Jim Morrison
9. Bill Tilden = Michael Jackson
10. Ivan Lendl = Pink Floyd (as a whole)

[forzamilan90]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

This is for popular (rock era) musicians only;

1. Roger Federer = John Lennon
2. Rod Laver = Paul McCartney
3. Pete Sampras = Bob Dylan
4. Bjorn Borg = Jimmy Page
5. Rafael Nadal = Jimi Hendrix
6. Ken Rosewall = Bob Marley
7. Pancho Gonzales = Elvis Presley
8. Don Budge = Jim Morrison
9. Bill Tilden = Michael Jackson
10. Ivan Lendl = Pink Floyd (as a whole)

hahahahahahaha raise your hand if anybody else understood the connotation!

[hoodjem]

Originally Posted by kiki

There is 5 gmusical genious in the whole mankind history, that rank alone in the Olimpus:

Bach,Beethoven,Mozart,Miles Davis and Jimmy Page

Leonardo,Van Gogh,Picasso,Rembrandt and Buonarroti for painting...

Ahh, yes. Jimmy Page--a great composer.

Many wonderful symphonies.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

This is for popular (rock era) musicians only;

1. Roger Federer = John Lennon
2. Rod Laver = Paul McCartney
3. Pete Sampras = Bob Dylan
4. Bjorn Borg = Jimmy Page
5. Rafael Nadal = Jimi Hendrix
6. Ken Rosewall = Bob Marley
7. Pancho Gonzales = Elvis Presley
8. Don Budge = Jim Morrison
9. Bill Tilden = Michael Jackson
10. Ivan Lendl = Pink Floyd (as a whole)

Pop has nothing to do with rock.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by hoodjem

Ahh, yes. Jimmy Page--a great composer.

Many wonderful symphonies.

Much better than journeyman Bartok or journeyman Strauss...

[Phoenix1983]

Originally Posted by kiki

Pop has nothing to do with rock.

?

I said "popular (rock era) musicians" - didn't say all of them performed rock music, but they are all famous from the mid-1950s onwards, considered the 'rock era' of popular music history.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

?

I said "popular (rock era) musicians" - didn't say all of them performed rock music, but they are all famous from the mid-1950s onwards, considered the 'rock era' of popular music history.

it´s OK.

Golden Era started in the late 50´s and kept till late 80´s or very early 90´s

I´d say mid 70´s would be the peak.Of course, led Zeppelin were the peak of the peak...

[forzamilan90]

Originally Posted by kiki

it´s OK.

Golden Era started in the late 50´s and kept till late 80´s or very early 90´s

I´d say mid 70´s would be the peak.Of course, led Zeppelin were the peak of the peak...

this is a great rock song from 2000s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_j7nVCJJ0

as is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXTv5Ondgs

I agree 70s rock is probably the best of the genre (zep and floyds prime)

[Phoenix1983]

Originally Posted by kiki

it´s OK.

Golden Era started in the late 50´s and kept till late 80´s or very early 90´s

I´d say mid 70´s would be the peak.Of course, led Zeppelin were the peak of the peak...

60s and 80s were better than 70s.

[Phoenix1983]

Originally Posted by forzamilan90

this is a great rock song from 2000s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_j7nVCJJ0

as is this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXTv5Ondgs

I agree 70s rock is probably the best of the genre (zep and floyds prime)

Kings of Leon are one of my favourite bands of recent years.

I'm not too much a fan of Led Zep at all, and as for Floyd, I love some of their albums (i.e. The Wall) but think others are overrated (Dark Side Of The Moon). I know I will be in a minority here though.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by Dan Lobb

Yes, many (including Philip Downs, author of Classical Music, who rates Wagner below Schubert) would put Schubert high.
I like his last four piano sonatas, the E flat Mass, and the String Quintet, but much of his music I find brooding and sad. Not my taste.
Debussy and Stravinsky were dominating influences, although I prefer Bartok, whose music has proven to have more staying power.

Tilden was brilliant, but I doubt that he was superior to Williams of 1914-16, and Allison Danzig claimed that Tilden played his absolute greatest match in the 1927 Forest Hills final against Lacoste, which he lost in straight sets.

Dan, Please try Schubert's Great C-Major symphony ("my" very best classic music's work!). There you will find much joy and courage for life! If you want to hear deeply felt music but rather sad music you can hear The Unfinished symphony. Also try the eight marvellous "Impromptus".

I doubt that Danzig witnessed Tilden's highlights in the early 1920s.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by kiki

there is much trash in any human activity, including all types of music.

Fortunately, I also enjoyed, not just the Golden Era of Tennis, but also the Golden Era of Music¡¡¡

Oh you lived already around 1900 in Vienna? That's great, old comrade...

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by kiki

There is 5 gmusical genious in the whole mankind history, that rank alone in the Olimpus:

Bach,Beethoven,Mozart,Miles Davis and Jimmy Page

Leonardo,Van Gogh,Picasso,Rembrandt and Buonarroti for painting...

kiki, Unfortunately I don't know about Page.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by forzamilan90

is that an opinion or fact?

Forza, I find his painting list very reasonanble, more than his music list.

[forzamilan90]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

Kings of Leon are one of my favourite bands of recent years.

I'm not too much a fan of Led Zep at all, and as for Floyd, I love some of their albums (i.e. The Wall) but think others are overrated (Dark Side Of The Moon). I know I will be in a minority here though.

I can see how Pink Floyd may be seen as overrated to some. My primary liking for the band is Gilmour's soulful playing (Comfortably Numb my fave solo ever) and their use of transcending sounds

[forzamilan90]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

kiki, Unfortunately I don't know about Page.

probably the best guitarist ever when you look at the resume

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

This is for popular (rock era) musicians only;

1. Roger Federer = John Lennon
2. Rod Laver = Paul McCartney
3. Pete Sampras = Bob Dylan
4. Bjorn Borg = Jimmy Page
5. Rafael Nadal = Jimi Hendrix
6. Ken Rosewall = Bob Marley
7. Pancho Gonzales = Elvis Presley
8. Don Budge = Jim Morrison
9. Bill Tilden = Michael Jackson
10. Ivan Lendl = Pink Floyd (as a whole)

Phoenix, I believe (but cannot prove) that McCartney wrote most of the great Beatles songs (music).

[forzamilan90]

Bobby this is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZD0yp-E0rw
rock and a bit of classical in one. Good *****.