The India Federation is hopeless

[v-verb]

Originally Posted by gsharma

Why don't you try walking down the street in Newark at night and come back to me? I have lived in NJ so try fooling someone else.

I never said there isn't a problem. I said you can't pretend to know it like it really is sitting in your house reading foreign newspapers.

Or go ahead, continue doing that and take a walk in Newark, Edison etc. and let us know how safe you feel.

Holy crap give it a rest. I'm mainly Indian and you couldn't pay me enough to visit. I've got relatives there, co-workers there, keep tabs on what's going on from my family there and it is far from civilized although it was one of the original birthplaces of civilization.

Let's just lock this thread because it will not get resolved.

[Dark Magician]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

You are forgetting it's India,politicians here will do anything to gain political mileage over there rivals.I don't even pay attention to what they say.

Just few days ago a MUSLIM politician spewed venom and said if Muslims in india get angry they will kill every hindu in sight, do you expect that to be taken seriously?

The problem lies with the people's mentality, the attitude toward girl child in india is appalling. People think girl as an unnecessary burden(more so in rural areas),and then you have the problem of dowry,it's some thing which has gone on for ages,you just can't change this things in a snap.

Agree. the bolded statement is the symptom of poverty. Too much development is needed.

[v-verb]

Originally Posted by kalyan4fedever

How does a country with such rich culture became so poor..years of muslim and british invasions.

Blame someone else? Pathetic!!

[Dark Magician]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

The bolded part is no logic..Even Japan has the same population density as India have.

Dont bring Japan. Its a big exception. A country BOMBED by US. Yet within few decades it their as the most advanced nation. A tsunami brings destruction but still they come back strong.
And what i meant was for having 18% population, u need RESOURCES, india doesnt have them ENOUGH, or far from enough.

[tusharlovesrafa]

Originally Posted by Dark Magician

Dont bring Japan. Its a big exception. A country BOMBED by US. Yet within few decades it their as the most advanced nation. A tsunami brings destruction but still they come back strong.
And what i meant was for having 18% population, u need RESOURCES, india doesnt have them ENOUGH, or far from enough.

Originally Posted by Dark Magician

Agree. the bolded statement is the symptom of poverty. Too much development is needed.

Yes,we are poor,I am not denying that.Another logic fail.We have abundant resources.We are short of petroleum,but that's it.But then again countries who are rich in resources such as Saudi-Arabia and Russia ain't doing that that great.RESOURCES AND POVERTY AIN'T RELATED.Hiding behind it and making excuses won't change the fact that here politicians are ****ing corrupt

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Start da Game

i was having a similar argument against people from usa at tennis forum.......i wondered what's their interest with problems of other countries........they were so ignorant about india, i had to shove a lot of information up their asses........

It's all about ideology. There is an enemy out there: be it foreigners, communists or islamists. Whatever it is, it's coming at you and it's evil. While people spend massive amount of energy dreading and hating on the designated enemies, they spend less energy questioning the corruption in their own country. In the meantime, there is a lot of oversimplification, misinformation and disinformation going on. But no doubt that overall, it works. It is easier to criticize others (that you don't know much about to begin with) than one's own people or one's own reponsibility with stuff that goes wrong in the world (never any shortage of that unfortunately).

[Dark Magician]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

Yes,we are poor,I am not denying that.Another logic fail.We have abundant resources.We are short of petroleum,but that's it.But then again countries who are rich in resources such as Saudi-Arabia and Russia ain't doing that that great.RESOURCES AND POVERTY AIN'T RELATED.Hiding behind it and making excuses won't change the fact that here politicians are ****ing corrupt

Oh man. You think politicians of other countries are not corrupt. Do u think its easy to provide enough food for all Indians which is 18% of the world. Their is not enough food. The country is Agriculture based, without the technology which makes the agriculture highly efficient. How are you going to feed every Indian. The 1.26 billion people. Do u have enough food? And what makes you say RESOURCES AND POVERTY AIN'T RELATED?

[tusharlovesrafa]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

It's all about ideology. There is an enemy out there: be it foreigners, communists or islamists. Whatever it is, it's coming at you and it's evil. While people spend massive amount of energy dreading and hating on the designated enemies, they spend less energy questioning the corruption in their own country. In the meantime, there is a lot of oversimplification, misinformation and disinformation going on. But no doubt that overall, it works. It is easier to criticize others (that you don't know much about to begin with) than one's own people or one's own reponsibility with stuff that goes wrong in the world (never any shortage of that unfortunately).

verno i got to sleep it is already 11:50 pm,this thread derailed my sleeping plans...phewww

[tusharlovesrafa]

Originally Posted by Dark Magician

Oh man. You think politicians of other countries are not corrupt. Do u think its easy to provide enough food for all Indians which is 18% of the world. Their is not enough food too. The country is Agriculture based, without the technology which makes the agriculture highly efficient. How are you going to feed every Indian. The 1.26 bili\lion people. Do u have enough food? And what makes you say RESOURCES AND POVERTY AIN'T RELATED?

ill deal with u later with some hard facts..gotta sleep..Rafa in waiting vamos..I just want to say that i look at people as an ASSETS,not a BURDEN..more people more Assets..

[Dark Magician]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

ill deal with u later with some hard facts..gotta sleep..Rafa in waiting vamos..I just want to say that i look at people as an ASSETS,not a BURDEN..more people more Assets..

Yeah right like i said people are burden. Read correctly, LACK of resources not EXCESS of people.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

verno i got to sleep it is already 11:50 pm,this thread derailed my sleeping plans...phewww

Ah, sorry about that. Have a good night!

[Dark Magician]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

verno i got to sleep it is already 11:50 pm,this thread derailed my sleeping plans...phewww

oh sorry. didnt realise that. sleep well.

[Semi-Pro]

This thread is going to turn into a **** storm reaaal soon

[kalyan4fedever]

Originally Posted by v-verb

Blame someone else? Pathetic!!

Just google it , indian history is entirely distorted to limits u cant even imagine

the thread being already derailed hahah here's one quote from british
Lord Macaulay’s address to the British Parliament on 2 February, 1835.

"I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief, such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such caliber, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self esteem, their native culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation."

[kalyan4fedever]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

this thread is going to be deleted soon,it has been completely derailed..

No it wont be ,, its just a general discussion , Jjust need to be moved to odds & ends hahah

[SLD76]

Originally Posted by tusharlovesrafa

USA has the highest CRIME RATE in the world.They have the highest number of rapes reported for any country.

that is the key phrase..how many unreported rapes are unaccounted for,

and even in this country where **** is frowned upon there are a good deal of frapes unreported.

[MaxT]

Originally Posted by SLD76

No offense to Senti and Tushar....what isnt corrupt in India?

Police and political system is broken.

One party has taken to giving women box cutters and red pepper powder to fend off sexual assaults because women arent safe walking the streets.

Is anyone really shocked at this?

As a woman, I dont care if you gave me the Taj Mahal, you couldnt pay me to visit India.

Again, no offense to Sentinel and Tushar.

My taxi driver was telling me that, when he visited India with this buddhist group, the tour guide put $100 in the passport to clear the custom. Otherwise their bags will be marked with chalk, and be so searched that it is not worth the trouble. He said they target certain type of people.

[Vrad]

Wow, bunch of ignorance in this thread.

1) India doesn't have resources? LOL. (Really, that claim does not deserve any more attention).
2) Political party is giving women box cutters to prevent rapes means that it is ridiculously unsafe for women. Well, that's rich coming from someone in a country where no woman walks around without pepper spray, and politicians want to arm school kids with AR-15s.

India's problems are pretty simple. Poverty. And corruption. And it's pretty easy to establish the link between both. Eliminate corruption, and you will likely eliminate poverty, which would eliminate nearly every other widespread problem in the country.

The country has tremendous natural and human resources. It has tremendous cultural resources which has the ability to easily accept new ideas and assimilate new/different cultures. What it lacks is (1) a sense of national identity (prior to 1947, there was no such thing as India) other than politically driven jingoism and (2) effective politics and bureaucracy.

The 1st will be resolved with time (a matter of 20-30 years at most). No idea what can resolve the 2nd.

More on-topic, the same corruption issues are what derails stuff like the India Federation. It's not an organization which tries to improve tennis, and success in tennis, but instead, is to give an opportunity to your political lackeys to make money and get free foreign trips for them and their families.