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"You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else." - Durden |
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#83 |
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Nadal belongs in a "special tier", the one that has Lance Armstrong in there too.
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Prisoner of Birth, I'm going to ask just one more time: can you provide a reliable source which says that most tennis historians do not consider Sampras a Tier 1 great?
If you do not reply, you will lose the argument. |
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Talk Tennis Guru
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Weak era
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Not really fair since in that case he loses by default.
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Most people who post here have more important things to focus on in their lives.
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Oldest living male Grand Slam champs: Seixas, Patty, Falkenburg, Savitt, Sedgman, Rose, Trabert, Pietrangeli, Fraser, Rosewall. |
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#89 |
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Join Date: Jan 2013
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can you provide reliable source he is obsessed with winning online arguments?
if you don't provide a source you will lose the argument. |
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Because he NEEDS to be right, in order to be able to feel important. Apparently, there is no other way for him.
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Crisstti:It's not cheating (arguable at best), it's merely breaking the rules./ Vero:Armstrong lacks the arrogance. |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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then you wake up
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I think he is already a tier one great, his 2011 season was one of the top 3 best calendar performances ever, his won 3 slams in a row, 13 consecutive semi-finals in grandslams, been world number One, been in top 3 for 4-5 consecutive years, won Aus open 3 consecutive times, beaten 2 Goat contenders (Fed,Nad) in multiple grandslam finals/semi-finals.
He may not have 8,9 or 12 Slams, but his only going to win more and has already accomplished what maybe only 0.1% of all professional tennis have ever accomplished. |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Yes, Djokovic could be a "great." For a simple reason, he's beaten guys who are talked about as GOAT of Fed and a GOAT of clay. Yes, fed's window has been winding down, but he was pretty much challenging him and winning matches during fed's prime and Nadal is pretty much in his age prime, minus his physical ailments. But he's beaten nadal before nadal had all the knee issues. So anyone who can take down these top two tier GOAT's deserve to be a GOAT himself.
I have immense respect for Djokovic, but more so how he handled Nadal last year at Aussie open and beating him at Indian Wells and Sony Erricson as well as those clay court events. Djokovic is the real deal. He is more mentally strong than people give him. If he is down break point or even match point, he plays that same point as if he was up 40-0 and I would have to say with that courage you are mentally strong as any elite athlete can be. |
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Absolutely CAN BE.. the real question is IS HE ALREADY
I agree with Nickzors argument saying that he already is |
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For the rest of the majors, I would still go with Nadal as of now, but there's a lot of tennis left even before the French Open. As of now, I'd go with Nadal, with Djokovic having his best chance for his next major win at the U.S. Open. I also think that Federer will continue to challenge him at majors in 2013.
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it's hard to see it happening... even hypothetically...
He's a good age. Still has quite a few years before his movement will slow down and flexibility reduces. At 30+ years old he won't be winning anything, but that's nearly 5 years from now.
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Disclaimer: I'm NOT a coach... Real tennis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDqnkLJ9BtM Last edited by Relinquis : 03-16-2013 at 09:52 PM. |
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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I notice many threads(not just his own) that he's involved with this same old win/lose arguments.
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NadalAgassi: I think Serena's final slam tally will be something from 18-27. My best guess is 24 or 25 though; Nole(2010) will never win Wimbledon |
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