Is Djokovic an all-time great?

[TMF]

Originally Posted by kalyan4fedever

How did u count it , is there an algo i am missing

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[kalyan4fedever]

Originally Posted by TMF

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Gr8 thanks didn't know this

[Mick3391]

Originally Posted by 5555

"Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal and Novak Djokovic, Roddick's chief rivals, may very well be the greatest three players to ever play tennis"
Andre Agassi
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/men-...ourt-champions

"At the moment Andy is probably playing against three of the top eight players in the history of the game".
Tim Henman
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/wimb...s-7876173.html

"1. Federer
2. Borg
3. Sampras
4. McEnroe
5. Nadal
6. Djokovic
7. Agassi
8. Connors
9. Lendl
10. Edberg "
Rod Laver's TOP 10 at Open Era
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/archives...654969?page=12

"Novak has been phenomenal, winning the Australian Open, Wimbledon and the US Open and getting to the semis at Roland Garros. That puts him right up there alongside the best who have ever played."
Pat Cash
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/879710-...-says-pat-cash

"This guy surely now has a genuine claim to be labelled as one of the all-time greats."
Jonathan Overend
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/16781690


"It's obviously great any time you beat the world No. 1. I just tried to do some of the same things I did in Australia. I was very close there against one of the greatest players ever.."
Andy Murray
http://www.espn.co.uk/tennis/sport/story/139046.html#

Of course he is, is there really any debate on that?

[maverick1981]

I think the difference is that Djokovic will go down in the books, but not so much with the people, and that is sometimes most important.

Agassi will always be remembered for a story and greatness, Fed for his historical crushing of the record books - but unless Djokovic achieves not only historical greatness but has something that is truley compelling about his person, I dont see him being one of the truley great athletes in this sport that will be an ongoing memory or reference in the game.

Why is there still a question about his greatness or place in history amongst the tennis circles? I think he lacks the human element of excitement and compelling story. Ripping your shirt off and joking around on the court doesnt make you go down in history.

[Povl Carstensen]

Originally Posted by 5555

In my previous post I refuted your argument.

I refuted your defence. You have lost. By the way it does not seem that you disagree with me? Good choice.

[Flash O'Groove]

Originally Posted by maverick1981

I think the difference is that Djokovic will go down in the books, but not so much with the people, and that is sometimes most important.

Agassi will always be remembered for a story and greatness, Fed for his historical crushing of the record books - but unless Djokovic achieves not only historical greatness but has something that is truley compelling about his person, I dont see him being one of the truley great athletes in this sport that will be an ongoing memory or reference in the game.

Why is there still a question about his greatness or place in history amongst the tennis circles? I think he lacks the human element of excitement and compelling story. Ripping your shirt off and joking around on the court doesnt make you go down in history.

Djokovic have also to be clearly better than someone else in at least one are of the game, otherwise he could become a kind of Sampras two: objectively great achievements, but a bit in the shadow of other. Nadal or Connors have smaller achievements overall than Sampras, but they have on area were they are the best.

[Vrad]

Originally Posted by Flash O'Groove

Djokovic have also to be clearly better than someone else in at least one are of the game, otherwise he could become a kind of Sampras two: objectively great achievements, but a bit in the shadow of other. Nadal or Connors have smaller achievements overall than Sampras, but they have on area were they are the best.

I think Djokovic achieved this with 3AOs in a row.

I think he absolutely deserves to be considered an all time great at this point.

[Vrad]

Originally Posted by kalyan4fedever

doesnt make sense

What I meant is that the moment after he achieved 3AOs in a row, he should be considered an all time great.

He still has a long ways to go before reaching the same level as other all time greats like Fed, Nadal, Sampras, Agassi, etc. but he will certainly be someone who is talked about in tennis for a long long time (which IMO makes one an all time great).

[Subventricular Zone]

A 6-time grand slam champion is already an all-time great. Question is how far up the ladder of greats he will go.

[Danny_G13]

For me if Djokovic hadn't double faulted to gift Nadal RG last year I'd have said that him defeating him in the 4 slam finals in a row made him the greatest player ever.

That achievement, alone, in this era, is untouchable because none of the big 4 have done it.

But Djokovic came the closest.

[NoZak Djokovic]

Yes , simply because of his 2011 season. To be honest anyone WITH a slam is an all time great as they have done what 127 other players in that tournament couldnt do

[hoodjem]

Sure. He's right up there with Trabert, Sedgman, and Crawford.

[Fiji]

Originally Posted by hoodjem

Sure. He's right up there with Trabert, Sedgman, and Crawford.

Is that a fact or a matter of opinion?

[Goosehead]

ah yes, the mighty donald young..enhancing his greatness by being world no 199 rank (or whatever)

[FormerNadalFan]

Well, he's pretty darn good, that's for sure.

[spinovic]

To answer the question, you have to project ahead and make a guess as to how he'll finish his career. I think most assume he will win multiple slams in the future and has a good chance of completing the career slam (very possibly this year). So, I think he is an all-time great.

[monfed]

Not yet, but he's getting there.

[tennisaddict]

Novak is definitely in the top 15-20 of tennis greats.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by tennisaddict

Novak is definitely in the top 15-20 of tennis greats.

He is between 25 and 30 at best.maybe further down.

[tennisaddict]

Originally Posted by kiki

He is between 25 and 30 at best.maybe further down.

Novak has 6 majors which by itself puts him at 21 on the all time list.

His 41-0 year , almost winning a slam but for the rain , having a great record inspite of playing alongside the GOAT and a great - all puts him in the 15-20 mark.