Why did the 08 Wimbledon loss bother Fed so much?

[DropShotArtist]

Originally Posted by The-Champ

How was his performance before the finals? I only saw the match where he destroyed Safin..

How was Nadal's before getting destroyed by Soderling and Rosol?

[lidoazndiabloboi]

He lost the number 1 ranking after that match stopped short of the Sampras record by 1 week. That would have haunted him for a lifetime if he didnt turn it around last year.

[Federer20042006]

Is this really a question?

Wimbledon is Federer's favorite tournament. If he had to pick one tournament to play, to win...everything...I'm pretty sure it would be Wimbledon.

He had a chance to set the open era record for consecutive Wimbledon titles, with 6. And he played in the greatest match of his career and came out the loser. A match like that will never come around again.

[Goosehead]

federer was 2 points from the title..being that close to winning wimbledon and losing would hurt (even if he did win 5 times already)..if he didnt care he wouldnt be the champion he is..

also we know always has one eye on tennis history, so being 2 points away from a record breaking 6 in a row at wimbledon would also gnaw away at him. (*renshaw won 6 in a row in 1880s when the title holder only had to play in the final the next year so it dosnt really count but we have to mention it )

[The_Order]

Originally Posted by Federer20042006

Is this really a question?

Wimbledon is Federer's favorite tournament. If he had to pick one tournament to play, to win...everything...I'm pretty sure it would be Wimbledon.

He had a chance to set the open era record for consecutive Wimbledon titles, with 6. And he played in the greatest match of his career and came out the loser. A match like that will never come around again.

While I agree he played very well, I don't think it was THE best match of his career. I certainly think his level was just as good as 2007 only Nadal was giving him more trouble in 08 than 07.

I think if abmk sees this he won't sleep. He'll probably pull out a stat sheet to try and prove you wrong...

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

1. it was his home turf, in his mind (arrogant or not its up to you) his name should have already been put as the 2008 champion before hand.
2. Hadnt won a slam that year when the previous year he had won 3.
3. He couldnt believe he lost to nadal on grass after being destroyed in RG and not winning hamburg (which he really shouldve won)
4. Comes back from 2 sets down and gets a chance at 4-3 30-40 in the 5th and chokes it.

so yeah this one hurt because he really shouldve been agressive forced that first set to a breaker after having many bp's when rafa served for the set or shouldve won the second set 6-3 but instead falters and gives it away. And despite all that he finally comes back saving MP's and having a BP to serve for the match and falters. So yeah it sucks

Dude, Nadal saved that BP on his own terms. Great body serve, and massive forehand DTL. That is a very poor example of "choking". That was just a case of being outplayed.

[The_Order]

Originally Posted by Goosehead

federer was 2 points from the title..being that close to winning wimbledon and losing would hurt (even if he did win 5 times already)..if he didnt care he wouldnt be the champion he is..

also we know always has one eye on tennis history, so being 2 points away from a record breaking 6 in a row at wimbledon would also gnaw away at him. (*renshaw won 6 in a row in 1880s when the title holder only had to play in the final the next year so it dosnt really count but we have to mention it )

So does this mean Decugis' 8 French titles don't count since only French players could play when he won his titles?

[DeShaun]

Someone said that that loss bothered Roger so much because Nadal lost today to yet another unknown bum and you have nothing better to do than dredge up this old news hoping it will cause others to feel miserable just like you.

[TheFifthSet]

Originally Posted by DropShotArtist

How was Nadal's before getting destroyed by Soderling and Rosol?

Why so defensive? Sounds like the guy was just asking a question.

To the OP: I don't think it bothered Fed TOO much. He's one of the best of all time at bouncing back from tough losses.

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by DeShaun

Someone said that that loss bothered Roger so much because Nadal lost today to yet another unknown bum and you have nothing better to do than dredge up this old news hoping it will cause others to feel miserable just like you.

Michael made this thread like 4 hours ago. The outcome of the match wasn't even decided at that point. He is just asking a question. Settle down and stop being so touchy about the topic Roger Federer.

[DeShaun]

Originally Posted by TheFifthSet

Why so defensive? Sounds like the guy was just asking a question.

To the OP: I don't think it bothered Fed TOO much. He's one of the best of all time at bouncing back from tough losses.

Everybody knows this about Rog which is why I think the OP was being disingenuous or grasping a fake pretense to dis on Federer now that Rafa was beaten by another nobody today in Chile. "Hmmm, Rafa lost today. I am a big fan of his. Now that he lost, what should I do? I know! I will start a thread that will remind Fed fans of a painful loss; that way I will have company in my misery."

[Goosehead]

Originally Posted by The_Order

So does this mean Decugis' 8 French titles don't count since only French players could play when he won his titles?

thats right, they dont count..seeing as it wasnt designated as 'a major' until 1925.

[DeShaun]

Originally Posted by Sid_Vicious

Michael made this thread like 4 hours ago. The outcome of the match wasn't even decided at that point. He is just asking a question. Settle down and stop being so touchy about the topic Roger Federer.

Maybe he is "just asking a question" but I believe that most everyone has an angle, all the more so hard core sports fans innocently (yeah OK, sure) asking some charged question of the opposing fan base. C'mon man, let's be real here.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by lidoazndiabloboi

He lost the number 1 ranking after that match stopped short of the Sampras record by 1 week. That would have haunted him for a lifetime if he didnt turn it around last year.

Uh no. While its true he lost the #1 ranking in August of 2008 he got it backin 2009 after winning RG and Wimby. Then he lost it again about a year later and got it back in 2012 after winning Wimbledon again.

[The-Champ]

Originally Posted by DropShotArtist

How was Nadal's before getting destroyed by Soderling and Rosol?

the hostility the hostility. Got destroyed in 4 and 5 sets?

Doesn't matter if Nadal lost to those guys as long as he can make your idol cry and you too for that matter. Fed has moved on...why can't you?

[The-Champ]

Originally Posted by DeShaun

Everybody knows this about Rog which is why I think the OP was being disingenuous or grasping a fake pretense to dis on Federer now that Rafa was beaten by another nobody today in Chile. "Hmmm, Rafa lost today. I am a big fan of his. Now that he lost, what should I do? I know! I will start a thread that will remind Fed fans of a painful loss; that way I will have company in my misery."

he made this thread before the final in Chile.

[Fiji]

He had a long grass streak going on for many years.

[zagor]

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

it was his home turf, in his mind (arrogant or not its up to you) his name should have already been put as the 2008 champion before hand.

Yeah, because you can read Fed's mind and know he takes Wimbledon for granted.

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

Hadnt won a slam that year when the previous year he had won 3.

He won a slam in 2008.

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

He couldnt believe he lost to nadal on grass after being destroyed in RG and not winning hamburg (which he really shouldve won)

Yeah, he couldn't believe he lost to Nadal on grass after trouncing him so handily last the year before, you're hilarious son.

Originally Posted by RF20Lennon

Comes back from 2 sets down and gets a chance at 4-3 30-40 in the 5th and chokes it.

Fed didn't choke on that BP, Nadal saved it (as Sid mentioned already), Fed's choking in this match was mostly in 2nd set.

[DeShaun]

Originally Posted by The-Champ

he made this thread before the final in Chile.

Why did he make it? I have only implied a possible reason. That he made it before the final only partially allays my suspicions as to the color of his motivation. That's all. I could be completely wrong, but I took the offensive knowing the risk involved. It is generally not good policy to attack other posters, but when you have a strong hunch about something, it is OK not to ignore your gut IMO. If he disagrees with what I said, he can add me to his ignore list or come straight back at me and refute what I said. I am not above taking correction in such events, and I do not seek nor need to have the final say.

When defining a subject, I was taught to set forward its essential attributes as the predicables and to avoid at all costs using examples of that subject, because from its genus a species inherits every property of the genus, but the genus does not have every property belonging to all of the species that it encompasses. If ever forced to use an example in defining a subject, I was taught to settle for no less than a superlative example, one that beyond any doubt bests illustrates the subject. For me, the superlative example of Roger taking a loss hard was 09 OZ where his tears gushed; and so, the predicable "bothered by" having been which the title of this thread attributes to Roger, was unsatisfying and seemed intellectually dishonest.

[DropShotArtist]

Originally Posted by The-Champ

the hostility the hostility. Got destroyed in 4 and 5 sets?

Doesn't matter if Nadal lost to those guys as long as he can make your idol cry and you too for that matter. Fed has moved on...why can't you?

Federer made Nadal cry after W2007, but Nadal was not man enough to do it in public.