Which was a better performance?

[Fiji]

Fed vs Roddick SF AO'07.

It's not even close.

Fed won AO 2007 without dropping a set. GOAT-like.

[borg11]

Originally Posted by NatF

Yep apparently h2h negates the grand slam title, the multiple masters and the grand slam finals Roddick has over Ferrer.

I don't even think that Ferrer is better hard courter than Roddick. I just don't think that someone can have 7:4 h2h, without being on the same level as his opponent. It just doesn't make sense.

If u look it up, I enlisted almost every advantage Roddick has over Ferrer.

[Start da Game]

try watching roland garros 2008 final.......

[Red Rick]

Roddick's performance in that post match press conference was pretty damn impressive too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGiSrj97txc

[akv89]

Originally Posted by borg11

not in the same ballpark?

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/...=F401&oId=R485

really?

yeah, and the era was weak, andy roddick being a major proof for this theory. So, gs champion and multiple finalist (2002-2006) manages just one more gs final in remaining years on tour (2007-2012), or, as someone might add, in the strong era. Retires at the age of 30 (not 33) with no big injuries. I would say the era was weak.

It's safe to say that Roddick and Ferrer will not be mentioned as part of the same tier in terms of their career achievements when all is said and done.
32 titles for Roddick vs. 19 (and counting) for Ferrer
612-213 record for Roddick vs 500-248 (currently) for Ferrer
A major title and several finals + a handful of masters for Roddick

Most of their matches have occurred during or after 2007, at which point Roddick had already peaked and Ferrer, as a late bloomer, was just about to enter his, despite the similarities in their ages. There were no matches between them that occurred in 2003-2004 and only one in 2005, years when Roddick was truly in his prime.

[Rock Strongo]

Originally Posted by borg11

not in the same ballpark?

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/...=F401&oId=R485

really?

yeah, and the era was weak, andy roddick being a major proof for this theory. So, gs champion and multiple finalist (2002-2006) manages just one more gs final in remaining years on tour (2007-2012), or, as someone might add, in the strong era. Retires at the age of 30 (not 33) with no big injuries. I would say the era was weak.

I think his shoulder finally decided to call it a day. When playing exo's now, he's not serving over 120 mph ever. He's not even reaching 120 at all.

[borg11]

Originally Posted by Red Rick

Roddick's performance in that post match press conference was pretty damn impressive too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGiSrj97txc

haha, this is great. I miss the guy.

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Apun94

Nole vs Ferrer SF AO'13
OR
Fed vs Roddick SF AO'07
Obv both were playing ridiculous tennis in these matches. Everything they hit somehow went in. The opponents were quality...
P.S. PLEASE try to be unbiased

They were both one sided and in both cases the losing player could have played better.

[Sid_Vicious]

Originally Posted by borg11

I don't even think that Ferrer is better hard courter than Roddick. I just don't think that someone can have 7:4 h2h, without being on the same level as his opponent. It just doesn't make sense.

If u look it up, I enlisted almost every advantage Roddick has over Ferrer.

Roddick, in his prime, was twice the player Ferrer ever has been. In 2003, Roddick one Montreal, Cincinnati, and the US Open back to to back. That is 19 consecutive victories on the masters and GS level. This something neither Federer nor the strong era boys have ever been able to accomplish in the American summer HC events. He actually displayed an outstanding amount of competence on his favorite surfaces like USO/Wimbledon, something Ferrer has never been able to do on any surface.

So, yes, Roddick is a far superior player than Ferrer despite the h2h. Using h2h as a benchmark would lead to ridiculous conclusions. Do you think Safin is not much better than Santoro? He is 2-7 in h2h.

[90's Clay]

Originally Posted by tudwell

Good God, you actually believe the weak era crap you spew everywhere? I thought that was just obvious trolling. Ferrer is not even in the same ballpark as Roddick - never has been and never will be. You are so biased it's physically painful to watch. You're gonna hurt yourself with those mental gymnastics.

Roddick was subpar at best in Australia. Ferrer is somewhat formidable there. Moreso then Roddick ever was

[Rock Strongo]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Roddick was subpar at best in Australia. Ferrer is somewhat formidable there. Moreso then Roddick ever was

Four semifinals and two quarters isn't too shabby compared to Ferrer's two+two, so I don't see where the subpar thing comes in...

[rafafan20]

Winning 36 out of 65 on Roddick's serve is bananas

[President]

People's impressions of Roddick have been clouded by the last 2 years of his career, he was a very good player in his prime. Ferrer is getting underrated in this thread though, he's been great over the past 2 years and overall may end up with more GS SF's than Roddick did actually. They are the same age too, Roddick just declined at age 28 while Ferrer actually improved at the same age.

[BrooklynNY]

Total Points Won

Federer 83
Roddick 45


Djokovic 85
Ferrer 41

About even, Djokovic slightly better

[Djokodal Fan]

Stats shows one of the LADDUs that Federer in got in his finals during weak era bashing period of 2003-2007.

[DragonBlaze]

Breaking Roddick's 7 times is a bit more impressive than breaking Ferrer's 7, especially 2007 Roddick (not the last 2 years or so).

[Djokodal Fan]

Roddick would not even 1 semis in current era.

But so is Ferrer, who got some free passes in the absence of Nadal (Well AO 2011 is an exception)

[MasturB]

lol.

Federer was hitting god-like shots in that match.

Backhand slice passing shots, flick half-volley passes, buggy whip forehands making Roddick look like a little boy.

Not to mention that was a Roddick that had just played him a few months ago in the USO final and was playing with major confidence.

I even remember Roddick trying to hit the ball out of Laver, and then he yelled out "GOD D-----T!, ohh sorry god"

[abmk]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Roddick was subpar at best in Australia. Ferrer is somewhat formidable there. Moreso then Roddick ever was

clueless ..total clueless

roddick is 38-11 @ the AO with 4 SFs, 2 QFs

ferrer is 28-11 @ the AO with 2 SFs ( wouldn't have reached the 2nd one without a mega-choke from almagro ) , 2 QFs

roddick survived younes al ayanoui's brilliance in AO 2003 QF, had a close battle with a resurgent safin in AO 2004, beat an in-form ancic in AO 2007, beat djoker in AO 2009(who retired ), survived a zoning gonzalez in AO 2010 ....

and ferrer ? beat an injured nadal in AO 2011, that's about it

its a no-contest IMO, roddick's level of play & record was wayyyyy better @ the AO ...

[NEW_BORN]

Originally Posted by 90's Clay

Nole's.


Ferrer is a much tougher opponent to completely blow off the court in Australia then Roddick was

This is a ******** statement