How serious are we ??

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by arche3

My kid won a match last week. I think I am qualified to be a pro coach now.

Good job your kid has what it takes .

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by Chemist

If I were #1, I would take the advice from Coach32years and hire a professional coach, who has the experience of transforming top juniors to successful touring pros. USTA may even pay for it.

Can you name one coach who fits that description. ? We're fine we have been playing up as much as 2 age groups most of our jr tennis career and have had a winning % in competition and when we played the big scary ITF's we had a winning % there also against guys we should have lost too . We're fine

Btw measures a pro court , same size as jr court , opened a can of balls they used at a pro tourney same balls at a jr event , but I am really interested in a coach that is specific on what your advising ?

[arche3]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Good job your kid has what it takes .

I hope so.... At least a helpful entry into Princeton or Stanford. Harvard. Any ivy.

[arche3]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Can you name one coach who fits that description. ? We're fine we have been playing up as much as 2 age groups most of our jr tennis career and have had a winning % in competition and when we played the big scary ITF's we had a winning % there also against guys we should have lost too . We're fine

Btw measures a pro court , same size as jr court , opened a can of balls they used at a pro tourney same balls at a jr event , but I am really interested in a coach that is specific on what your advising ?

Imo stick to what you have done so far. Don't change a thing until you stop improving and stagnating. Those high dollar academies have nothing on a dedicated, informed and fanatic parent coach. I'd bet on a Richard Williams over bolleteri any day of the week.

[ga tennis]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Can you name one coach who fits that description. ? We're fine we have been playing up as much as 2 age groups most of our jr tennis career and have had a winning % in competition and when we played the big scary ITF's we had a winning % there also against guys we should have lost too . We're fine

Btw measures a pro court , same size as jr court , opened a can of balls they used at a pro tourney same balls at a jr event , but I am really interested in a coach that is specific on what your advising ?

I know one that would be PERFECT for Deit.

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Can you name one coach who fits that description. ? We're fine we have been playing up as much as 2 age groups most of our jr tennis career and have had a winning % in competition and when we played the big scary ITF's we had a winning % there also against guys we should have lost too . We're fine

Btw measures a pro court , same size as jr court , opened a can of balls they used at a pro tourney same balls at a jr event , but I am really interested in a coach that is specific on what your advising ?

I don't know these coaches so cannot reccommend. There's a few that I like what they have done with their players. Brad Gilbert, Peter Lundgren, David Nainkin. Maybe they can give you some thoughts. They know a lot more than any of us on these boards.

[WoodIndoors]

Originally Posted by ga tennis

I know one that would be PERFECT for Deit.

I sincerely believe that he has the best possible coach already. Good Job #1C !

That consultant idea (to #1, not directly to the player) would be, if not done already, a good idea though.

Which path to choose, that`s a different story. If there will be no junior GS wins (singles) at least 1 before junior years are gone, I´d push even force my player to go to college 10 out of 10 (if thats what he has considered also himself as a second option. If not, well, then it´s a bit different story...)

[WoodIndoors]

...of course the big question is:

If journey leading to 287 ATP (worst scenario) is also a big accomplishment , time well spend - or a failure?

If not a failure, and there's no major dreams becoming a doctor or a lawyer etc, go for it !

[TCF]

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[BMC9670]

How many times can you guys turn this debate over? It's getting old. Just do your thing and let it play out - proof is in results and time will either produce results or not. In the mean time, use the boards for constructive purposes instead of turning threads into pi$$ing contests about who can turn their kid into the next top pro.

[Chemist]

Originally Posted by WoodIndoors

...of course the big question is:

If journey leading to 287 ATP (worst scenario) is also a big accomplishment , time well spend - or a failure?

If not a failure, and there's no major dreams becoming a doctor or a lawyer etc, go for it !

One can make much more money teaching tennis than playing on the pro circuit if ranked over 300 ATP. The life won't be easy even for players ranked 200 ATP. The following lists 10 players ranked #201-210 ATP. They have to pay for a coach and spend $20,000 a year traveling.

Rank Age Name Career Earning Year Turning Pro
201 28 Kirche $117,002 2003
202 23 Young $1,376,011 2004
203 23 Trungelliti $95,785 2008
204 26 Farah $345,816 2010
205 26 Ward $411,824 2006
206 26 Baker $376,728 2003
207 27 Millot $288,922 2007
208 25 Ilhan $617,578 2006
209 32 Robert $760,477 2001
210 32 Yani $397,821 2003

[Tennishacker]

Originally Posted by BMC9670

How many times can you guys turn this debate over? It's getting old. Just do your thing and let it play out - proof is in results and time will either produce results or not. In the mean time, use the boards for constructive purposes instead of turning threads into pi$$ing contests about who can turn their kid into the next top pro.

Agree, whats funny is that these experts/coaches are on here 24/7, if they were good coaches, I don't think they would have the time.

[andfor]

Originally Posted by Tennishacker

Agree, whats funny is that these experts/coaches are on here 24/7, if they were good coaches, I don't think they would have the time.

It's called the internet you should try it. Just like you and all the time you spend on Facebook it's pretty easy stay in touch 24/7. If you know how to get text or email updates staying engaged throughout the day is not that difficult.

[chalkflewup]

If anybody tells you how great of a coach they are... fire them on the spot.

[Number1Coach]

Originally Posted by coaching32yrs

I don't know these coaches so cannot reccommend. There's a few that I like what they have done with their players. Brad Gilbert, Peter Lundgren, David Nainkin. Maybe they can give you some thoughts. They know a lot more than any of us on these boards.

Know more about developing a jr then me ? I would question that , as for Gilbert he has my highest respect , Lundgren is solid , but my question is what thoughts are they gonna give me ?

If I wanted DB no.1 in the nation it can happen with in a few month and could have happened last year not gonna chase the points , know he is at the top level as a Jr and the only thing that would prove it to everyone here would spend the money playing ITF and have him go out and beat all the so called top players which does not interest me .

This is not rocket science it a process we seem to have a good handle on .

but please give me and idea of what they would say?

Take TCF never has put a video up of any player he has built , wont show his daughter hitting a ball , everything he has said about my kid has fallen way short of his prediction and most on here call him an expert and say his daughter is talented "WE HAVENT SEEN HER " so I am sure you can understand why I am reluctant to hear what most advise on here ?

[BMC9670]

^^^ Everyone on the internet is an expert... thought everyone knew that!

[coaching32yrs]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Know more about developing a jr then me ? I would question that , as for Gilbert he has my highest respect , Lundgren is solid , but my question is what thoughts are they gonna give me ?

If I wanted DB no.1 in the nation it can happen with in a few month and could have happened last year not gonna chase the points , know he is at the top level as a Jr and the only thing that would prove it to everyone here would spend the money playing ITF and have him go out and beat all the so called top players which does not interest me .

This is not rocket science it a process we seem to have a good handle on .

but please give me and idea of what they would say?

Take TCF never has put a video up of any player he has built , wont show his daughter hitting a ball , everything he has said about my kid has fallen way short of his prediction and most on here call him an expert and say his daughter is talented "WE HAVENT SEEN HER " so I am sure you can understand why I am reluctant to hear what most advise on here ?

You are not developing a junior anymore. You are taking a pro to the next level. Gilbert could figure out exactly what your player has to do. A dad can take a player to the highest level in juniors. To be a pro, you need a pro. Sorry but you are not a pro, you are a Dad.

[chalkflewup]

Originally Posted by Number1Coach

Know more about developing a jr then me ?

You have no other option but to defend your position because you're not going to turn your kid over to another coach...period. I'm not knocking you, I'm just trying to save everybody some time here. Let's move on already.

[NLBwell]

#1 has sent DB to a facility for a while. I hope he continues to do things like this and get outside advice and different practice partners even if he continues to be the primary coach.
One thing that makes all this difficult is how exceptional DB is. He is an excellent student and could excel in many areas, so a college scholarship to a top school is an attractive thing.
One thing to think about would be to even work out of a facility and play futures without taking the prize money for a year. There is an age limit to D1 tennis, so don't go to the point where that is a factor.

[andfor]

Originally Posted by NLBwell

#1 has sent DB to a facility for a while. I hope he continues to do things like this and get outside advice and different practice partners even if he continues to be the primary coach.
One thing that makes all this difficult is how exceptional DB is. He is an excellent student and could excel in many areas, so a college scholarship to a top school is an attractive thing.
One thing to think about would be to even work out of a facility and play futures without taking the prize money for a year. There is an age limit to D1 tennis, so don't go to the point where that is a factor.

H.S. graduates get 1 semester off before the D1 tennis eligibility clock starts. That's why every now and them you'll see a top American Freshman start in January.