I love techno

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by NickC

And is anyone else here into production?

Yes. For many years off and on.

[Anaconda]

Here's a pretty good techno/rock/whatever song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wngyXhTx4pc

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by NickC

And is anyone else here into production?

I dove back in. I really like a lot of dubstep that doesnt sound like dubstep. For example, Joy Orbison. I'm not into the Reese bass processed 1,000 times to sound like a transformer but I love 140 BPM. There is a lot of versatility you can have with the drums.

For production I have really gotten into modular trackers. I just wanted all the VSTis out of the writing process. Too many options. Give me triangle, square, Sin waves, some filters and some parameters and lets do this.

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by Anaconda

Here's a pretty good techno/rock/whatever song.

Not techno. You can start another thread for rock/whatever music if you like. There's plenty of space left on the internet.

[Anaconda]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Not techno. You can start another thread for rock/whatever music if you like. There's plenty of space left on the internet.

What? Enter Shikari are a techno rock band. Ergo from one angle they are techno.

[NickC]

Originally Posted by TennisLovaLova

if by production you mean spending 3 hours / week on fruityloops then yes§
Actually I make my own podcasts and share them with my friends.
Mostly minimal or deep if I'm feeling "romantic"

Minimal is cool. Always has been. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It's just not commercially viable as cheesy horribly-produced house music.

And I downloaded a demo of FL Studio the other day and it's kind of neat.

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Yes. For many years off and on.

What kind of stuff do you like to make? What platform do you use?

Originally Posted by Power Player

I dove back in. I really like a lot of dubstep that doesnt sound like dubstep. For example, Joy Orbison. I'm not into the Reese bass processed 1,000 times to sound like a transformer but I love 140 BPM. There is a lot of versatility you can have with the drums.

Dubstep when done right is cool. Dubstep with the same bread-and-butter sounds from Massive, Razor and FM8 is dumb, unless it sounds fresh and is really well produced.


Let's all collab?

I've always thought that indoor racquet sports made cool sounds, i.e the boom of a tennis ball being struck in an indoor facility. Squash sounds pretty cool too. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed this too? I think such sounds would make good FX or interesting perc sounds. Table tennis sounds are cool too.

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by NickC

What kind of stuff do you like to make? What platform do you use?

Electronic music - mostly house leaning towards the dubby/techy side of things.

I use Albeton, primarily because I can have it on my laptop. Used to use Logic but got tired of Mac issues (price and peripherals mainly) and having to have a separate computer specifically for music making. Albeton is fine as long as you don't fall into the common trap of using loops for everything. The main downside for me with Ableton is mixdowns - it still has this particular sound which can't compare to Logic/Protools imo. When I want to finish something properly I do the end mixdown (as well as certain effects - delays etc) in Logic.

[Power Player]

I have been mixing in StudioOne and its freaking awesome. I just started working on my own stuff again. Most of my time is dedicated to recording for other clients. I am glad to be able to sit down and sculpt a kick drum for myself again.

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Electronic music - mostly house leaning towards the dubby/techy side of things.

I use Albeton, primarily because I can have it on my laptop. Used to use Logic but got tired of Mac issues (price and peripherals mainly) and having to have a separate computer specifically for music making. Albeton is fine as long as you don't fall into the common trap of using loops for everything. The main downside for me with Ableton is mixdowns - it still has this particular sound which can't compare to Logic/Protools imo. When I want to finish something properly I do the end mixdown (as well as certain effects - delays etc) in Logic.

I work in the same way. Ableton's sound is odd, but not as bad as FL Studio's.

Want to exchange some .ALS files?

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Power Player

I have been mixing in StudioOne and its freaking awesome. I just started working on my own stuff again. Most of my time is dedicated to recording for other clients. I am glad to be able to sit down and sculpt a kick drum for myself again.

I've heard Studio One is very similar to Logic minus the stability issues. What kind of stuff are you doing?

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by NickC

I've heard Studio One is very similar to Logic minus the stability issues. What kind of stuff are you doing?

Right now just programming drums, organizing samples. But I like house and more progressive dubstep and ill be working on that this month.

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Power Player

Right now just programming drums, organizing samples. But I like house and more progressive dubstep and ill be working on that this month.

Wicked! If you are down, I'd like to help you? I have always loved drum programming as opposed to synth-based sound design. Alternatively, I think you've stated before that you work in the industry and as such I'd like to hear how your stuff "sounds", because it's probably alot more professional than mine.

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by NickC

Wicked! If you are down, I'd like to help you? I have always loved drum programming as opposed to synth-based sound design. Alternatively, I think you've stated before that you work in the industry and as such I'd like to hear how your stuff "sounds", because it's probably alot more professional than mine.

Cool, Once I get something complete ill send it to you and you can hear it unmixed. I barely EQ or anything anymore. I spend a lot of time composing the track so the sounds fit together naturally. From there ill filter, EQ..etc, but I found that the less of that I do at the start, the better the track is balanced.

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Power Player

Cool, Once I get something complete ill send it to you and you can hear it unmixed. I barely EQ or anything anymore. I spend a lot of time composing the track so the sounds fit together naturally. From there ill filter, EQ..etc, but I found that the less of that I do at the start, the better the track is balanced.

Composition is something I'd like to really learn. I can make cool sequences and sounds, and loops are a piece of cake. But my songwriting and making sounds that truly "fit" together with little to no effects are awful. Did you ever have this problem? Do you have some kind of structure to your writing? Either way, would you mind giving me advice as to how to really find things that fit really well together? Do you use many effects?

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by NickC

I work in the same way. Ableton's sound is odd, but not as bad as FL Studio's.

Want to exchange some .ALS files?

Fire me a PM. Would be cool to chat more.

[Power Player]

Originally Posted by NickC

Composition is something I'd like to really learn. I can make cool sequences and sounds, and loops are a piece of cake. But my songwriting and making sounds that truly "fit" together with little to no effects are awful. Did you ever have this problem? Do you have some kind of structure to your writing? Either way, would you mind giving me advice as to how to really find things that fit really well together? Do you use many effects?

Well I have been playing music since I was young so songwriting is not as tough. It is still tough to write something great, but thats the challenge everyone faces.

I tend to not worry about sound design that much when writing. It can suck me into a hole that distracts me from the song.

Id recommend writing minimal stuff to start. As for structure, I like to program just a kick pattern so I have a feel, and then I spend my time on the synths and samples.

I dont use a ton of effects, but it just matters the song. I may hook up a synth to a reverb and automate the wet/dry controller. Or do that with distortion or a filter or maybe all 3.

If I write an arpeggio, instead of getting the notes right and stopping, I detail it more by automating slides or velocity or pitch. Just stuff that will keep it moving and interesting. There is a lot of repetition in dance, so you want to keep the sounds moving and evolving.

Also, Id recommend getting a good sounding synth with triangle, saw, square and noise Oscillators. From there just build your sounds. Learn how to build sounds without presets, because it actually is a lot faster then searching for presets.

For example, you can make a very good string or violin sound with a Saw wav and some heavy reverb.

[NickC]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

Fire me a PM. Would be cool to chat more.

email sent!

[Bobby Jr]

Another live band rendition of a techno classic by A Hundred Birds...

This time a remake of DJ Rolando 'Jaguar'

http://youtu.be/c6_z10E2kmw

And playing it live at a party in Japan > http://youtu.be/tnx2uEHa2cM

[World Beater]

In terms of techno.

do you guys still consider riche hawtin to be one of the flag-bearers...or has he sold his musical soul like some other famous djs...

I used to listen to carl cox...i still do - more his older stuff.

you guys listen to dahlbeck?

What would you consider infected mushroom to be...

I like this track :

"My bag lost in berlin"

[TennisLovaLova]

Originally Posted by World Beater

In terms of techno.

do you guys still consider riche hawtin to be one of the flag-bearers...or has he sold his musical soul like some other famous djs...

I used to listen to carl cox...i still do - more his older stuff.

you guys listen to dahlbeck?

What would you consider infected mushroom to be...

I like this track :

"My bag lost in berlin"

IMO Hawtin pushed the limits of techno and minimal to new levels switching early from vinyl to digital.
His set up is tecnically what's best around.
I consider him the GOAT.
Even in RA forums he's ranked 1st or 2nd each year among Villalobos, troxler and jamie jones...
Some might say he sold his soul for money, too much marketing, but the guy has been around forever, and he's still killing it. He's now collecting the fruits of his work.
He doesnt charge as much as the fake dj's (guetta, deadmouse and co) but he has his own audience and he always comes up with great party concepts.
His sound is unique and inspired many dj's. Track selection, technique, variation, emotion, power, consistency he's the man. Quality and raw power.
I hated the plastikman gigs 2 years ago, been to the paris show, hated it. Too experimental and yes his ego seemed too big and I guess he learned the lesson.

Carl cox: the fact 1 cd is in imo one of the best techno mixes ever.
Went to many of his live shows in france, spain, belgium, netherlands, from 1997 to last year. He still rocks, technically flawless.

Jasper dahlback: great producer, but saw him live last year in marbella and wasnt too happy about his live set, a bit different from what I was expecting from him... Try listenin to his remix of "je regrette everything"