Federer calls for biological passports to detect doping

[*Sparkle*]

Originally Posted by Bobby Jr

If he seriously said that after Armstrong demonstrated perfectly the folly of the whereabouts rule having much effect on PEDs use then Djokovic isn't as smart as some would claim. A drunk teenager could see the hole in his reasoning there.

I'd like to think most players now know better, but I'm not going to presume the worst because a busy professional athlete doesn't spend his days reading tennis forums and conspiracy theory blogs, so is lagging a bit behind.

I say it's up to the ITF to make sure the players know and understand the facts.

Mind you, some people are never happy. After dedicating far too much time to discussing how the tennis world is in denial about the potential for a doping problem, those very same people see new conspiracies when the top players start asking for the better controls they supposedly want themselves.

Call me bonkers, but if players have heard about what happened with Armstrong, and they aren't totally stupid, they won't need a PR person to tell them it's a problem. Even if a PR person has suggested they may wish to speak out about it, this should be welcomed by anyone who genuinely wants to see better controls. The only reason to complain about any player speaking out is if you don't actually want progress in doping controls, and would prefer to keep the status quo where there is plenty of opportunity to make accusations of any player you don't like.

Anyway, I think the momentum is there now. It's inevitable that increased blood testing has to happen, and it's probably only a matter of time before the blood passports come in. It's being asked about at every press conference, so if a player doesn't know the issues yet, they're going to need to do their research.

[Djokodal Fan]

Pederer fans out in full force to defend their idol.

Where were these trolls when Nadal/Djokovic and Murray were accused of doping in other threads?

TT is about to explode with my claims about Pederer

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Djokodal Fan

Pederer fans out in full force to defend their idol.

Where were these trolls when Nadal/Djokovic and Murray were accused of doping in other threads?

TT is about to explode with my claims about Pederer

Dopervic is your favorite? Yeah like he's clean! LOL.

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Djokodal Fan

Duh if winners were the ones to be tested, Pederer would have been caught long back in 2007 when he won 10 slams in 3 years.

If anyone who should be rigorously tested, it needs to be Fed.

Are you talking about Federer? I guess your F key is broken and you can't afford to get it fixed? Yes he would have if he had been doping!!!! Haha!!!! I remember seeing pressers after Fed's wins at Wimbledon and you could clearly see the bandaid on his arm where he had been tested. So there you go! Innocent!!!

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Djokodal Fan

So what still played 2 back to back 5 setters at this age. Nothing other than doping to my eyes.

Doperer was saved by not testing!

what's he supposed to do? Retire from the match rather than play the 5 sets like your buddy Dopervic has been so proficient at (11 retirements)? Federer doesn't do that. In fact he's never retired from a match in over 15 years on tour. Impressive isn't it?

[big ted]

this is interesting because there seems to be an article in the news almost everyday about a top player urging there to be more tests and more thorough ones and at the same time they all say 'from what i know tennis is a pretty clean sport'. so if they think its so clean why are they pushing for more testing??

[*Sparkle*]

Originally Posted by big ted

this is interesting because there seems to be an article in the news almost everyday about a top player urging there to be more tests and more thorough ones and at the same time they all say 'from what i know tennis is a pretty clean sport'. so if they think its so clean why are they pushing for more testing??

Even if a player were convinced he were the only clean member of the tour, he'd have to be incredibly stupid to say so.

Although more recently, the players are saying that it's the only way to be sure tennis is clean, which is a bit of a shift, but falls short of saying they think it's dirty.

Also, even if they are convinced tennis is totally clean, they will have noticed that some other people don't think it's clean, so it's perfectly reasonable that they'd like to protect themselves from accusations of cheating.

[Rock Strongo]

I have to say, for a troll, he's not particularly good.

[Djokodal Fan]

anyone who says something about Pederer is considered Troll...This board is full of pro-Pederer Trolls

Yes 'F' letter in my keyboard works well

[Tony48]

Originally Posted by mariecon

Are you talking about Federer? I guess your F key is broken and you can't afford to get it fixed? Yes he would have if he had been doping!!!! Haha!!!! I remember seeing pressers after Fed's wins at Wimbledon and you could clearly see the bandaid on his arm where he had been tested. So there you go! Innocent!!!

O RLY?

But when it comes to Djokovic being tested after a match:

Originally Posted by mariecon

No but I know enough to know blood doping isn't detectable and players know to stop taking other PED's at least 24 hours before a test so that it's out of their system. How many tests did Lance pass? I suppose you're going to tell me he wasn't doping either?

Pathetic hypocrite

[Djokodal Fan]

Originally Posted by Tony48

O RLY?

But when it comes to Djokovic being tested after a match:


Pathetic hypocrite

Don't bother owning the new troll on this board....he should be tired of getting owned time and time again!

My post was intentional to rile up some new born fed trolls like mariecon

Enjoys!!

[President]

Federer is clean, Djokodal are not...

[Djokodal Fan]

Originally Posted by President

Federer is clean, Djokodal are not...

so says the president, who knows everything about tennis

[veroniquem]

Originally Posted by Djokodal Fan

so says the president, who knows everything about tennis

They're just ****ed that Novak is not going away. He had the most finals in 2009 (10), in 2011 (11) and in 2012 (11). Faced with such remarkable consistency, their only fantasy left is to try and find a way to delegitimize the wins. (Not gonna happen of course given that Djoko is the real thing). Talk about desperate measures

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Tony48

O RLY?

But when it comes to Djokovic being tested after a match:


Pathetic hypocrite

Wow you sure have a lot of time on your hands loser!

[mariecon]

Originally Posted by Djokodal Fan

Don't bother owning the new troll on this board....he should be tired of getting owned time and time again!

My post was intentional to rile up some new born fed trolls like mariecon

Enjoys!!

Look up the definition of troll in the dictionary and your photo will be there.

[cc0509]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

They're just ****ed that Novak is not going away.

You should talk. Nadal has struggled more against Djokovic in the past year and a half than Federer has. Can you imagine what would have happened if Nadal played Djokovic on hc in the form Nadal was in at Vina Del Mar?

[Djokodal Fan]

Originally Posted by mariecon

Wow you sure have a lot of time on your hands loser!

Loser....who? Please stop getting owned and save some embarrassment. Move on troll!

[Djokodal Fan]

Originally Posted by veroniquem

They're just ****ed that Novak is not going away. He had the most finals in 2009 (10), in 2011 (11) and in 2012 (11). Faced with such remarkable consistency, their only fantasy left is to try and find a way to delegitimize the wins. (Not gonna happen of course given that Djoko is the real thing). Talk about desperate measures

Pro-Pederer trolls in full force. Love to see them cry and whine like their idol who did after USOPEN 2011 semis

[corners]

Just for the record, several years ago Federer said that all samples collected should be frozen and saved for many years. I don't know if ITF is doing this. I don't think so.