Nadal criticizes the Sao Paolo tournament - Page 3

Geology_Rocks! · 02-13-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Sure have. What's your point?

Once a few years ago?

Seriously, if the courts were that horrible the media would be bashing it (they would love it). Fact is the court is playing fast and Ralph doesn't like it.

DragonBlaze · 02-13-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by tudwell

If the clay is uneven and unsafe, then he has a point, but he's not doing himself any favors by saying that the court doesn't facilitate long rallies and that people want to see long rallies. That just looks like blatant self-serving bias since Nadal himself prefers slower courts and longer rallies.

That is true. Having said that it would be useful to have the transcript of the whole interview, since it feels very much like some journalist has cut and paste things out of context in that article.

Regardless, Nadal is correct in that the courts are truly in atrocious condition. A bit disappointing considering the level of the tournament!

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Originally Posted by Geology_Rocks!

Once a few years ago?

Seriously, if the courts were that horrible the media would be bashing it (they would love it). Fact is the court is playing fast and Ralph doesn't like it.

No, other players have also been complaining. Again look at this picture

Crisstti · 02-13-2013, 11:38 AM

Calm down haters. I guess you're as uninformed as usual, but there has been a lot of talk about the state of the courts and balls.

Geology_Rocks! · 02-13-2013, 11:39 AM

Didn't know about the line issue, that is a big fail for the tournament. I still think the clay looks fine.

Clarky21 · 02-13-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Geology_Rocks!

Once a few years ago?

Seriously, if the courts were that horrible the media would be bashing it (they would love it). Fact is the court is playing fast and Ralph doesn't like it.

Wrong. And what difference does it make if a person doesn't play tennis? You're just pulling out the old ad hominem attack to support your position.

And sorry, the courts suck in Brasil. I know you want to bash Nadal for everything he does, but this time, you have nothng to bash him about.

Clarky21 · 02-13-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Crisstti

Calm down haters. I guess you're as uninformed as usual, but there has been a lot of talk about the state of the courts and balls.

Exactly. There were reports that the courts were in poor condition before Nadal even got there. There are also players complaining about the balls there as well.

Geology_Rocks! · 02-13-2013, 11:47 AM

I bet courts will be even worse if he loses early.

mariecon · 02-13-2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DragonBlaze

This is what the courts are like there. The lines are LITERALLY coming off. While I don't always agree with Rafa, he's not exaggerating here and is 100% correct. The courts are that bad.

Furthermore he was not even the first to complain. Most other players had said the same thing before Rafa said anything. Unfortunately, as someone said, "the boy who cried wolf" effect may be starting to come into play regarding Rafa's comments as evident in this thread.

ok that is bad. That's what you get for playing a 250!

citybert · 02-13-2013, 12:02 PM

Maybe his complaining has something to do with the silent ban. You cannot have a thread without Rafa and now you cannot have a Rafa thread without a silent ban.

Mick3391 · 02-13-2013, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Talker

World No. 5 Rafael Nadal has come out on Wednesday with some scathing remarks towards the organisers of the Brasil Open, a tournament which is a part of the ATP World Tour 250 Series.

"It is unacceptable that a tournament is held in these conditions. The bounce of the ball is too irregular, the lines are falling off and the balls are far too soft. You can not have any long rallies here."

Nadal followed that up with a critique of the ATP.

"This situation is a consequence of the ATP's lack of worry for the players. These courts are bad for the health of the players and I hope someone will take action against this. The audience wants to see long matches and on these kinds of courts that is impossible without injuries, no?"

When asked about the state of his knee, Nadal was cautiously optimistic.

"My knee feels a bit better today. Of course, it still changes from day to day, some day it's better, some day it's worse. All I can do is see how things go and I hope the injury will not cause me to lose matches I could win."

He assured the Brazilian journalists that his qualms were with the São Paulo tournament only.

"I love playing in Brazil and I am already looking forward to the Olympics in Rio. I just think that this tournament has had some problems with the organisation, but my team and I are going to talk to the organisers and see if it can be fixed."

Yea, I think it's poor that for money the organizers whipe these guys out, tourney after tourney, burned out by 17 with life long injuries.

I wish they'd speed up the courts just a bit so we can see a blend of quicker serve and volley combined with baseline play, I think everyone would be happy with that, but money will always override any other concerns

Crisstti · 02-13-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Exactly. There were reports that the courts were in poor condition before Nadal even got there. There are also players complaining about the balls there as well.

Yep. Some people are just blind when it come to their hate for "certain" players.

vive le beau jeu ! · 02-13-2013, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonBlaze

"the boy who cried wolf" effect may be starting to come into play regarding Rafa's comments as evident in this thread.

... which is well deserved.

him being really eaten by the wolf would be also well deserved !

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Originally Posted by DragonBlaze

amazing line, i have to say... is it on the main court ?

on such a court, connors would just have to move the line with his hand instead of doing his little steps !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvQc8ofjJFI
(damned ! the right clip appears to have been removed from youtube... snif !)

citybert · 02-13-2013, 12:19 PM

What happened to rafas training where toni would feed him dead balls and still try and make him preserve no matter what

Clarky21 · 02-13-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by citybert

What happened to rafas training where toni would feed him dead balls and still try and make him preserve no matter what

Make him preserve what? Jams and jellies? Lol.

citybert · 02-13-2013, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Make him preserve what? Jams and jellies? Lol.

Whoops yeah typo. But yeah maybe jellies tho

cc0509 · 02-13-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Exactly. There were reports that the courts were in poor condition before Nadal even got there. There are also players complaining about the balls there as well.

Be that as it may, the issue is that Nadal has been back just over a week and already he has lost a final to a nobody and has managed to complain just about everything such as hardcourts, the time between points rule, the clay court in Sao Paulo, etc. etc. Don't you think he should just be quiet and play tennis? What other top four guy complains this much about so many different topics? Federer, Murray and Djokovic do not complain so often about so many things. Enough already. You wonder why some people don't respect him, this is why!

フェデラー · 02-13-2013, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarky21

Exactly. There were reports that the courts were in poor condition before Nadal even got there. There are also players complaining about the balls there as well.

I guess everyone ignored the tweets I posted. Dustin Brown twisted his ankle on the courts. Ramirez Hidalgo twisted his ankle as well. I realize Nadal complains a lot and often times about ridiculous things, however he clearly seems to have a point here.

heftylefty · 02-13-2013, 12:29 PM

I wonder how much appearance money was paid to Nadal. Yes, the court is not Roland Garros, but he's playing 250 tourny. And being paid quite handsomely I might add.

Borrelli · 02-13-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sentinel

Did Nadal complain about the AO courts? I saw a Chinese girl fall TWO WHOLE TIMES. And she even banged her head on the court when she fell.

They really should move AO to soft mushy clay before people die.

Probably her cheap Nike shoes caused it. They need to speed those courts up so we can see some serve and volley at one of the majors.

cc0509 · 02-13-2013, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by heftylefty

I wonder how much appearance money was paid to Nadal. Yes, the court is not Roland Garros, but he's playing 250 tourny. And being paid quite handsomely I might add.

At least $1 million a pop. He would not get out of bed for less than that per tournament.

02-13-2013, 11:38 AM	#43
Crisstti Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Chile Posts: 4,067	Calm down haters. I guess you're as uninformed as usual, but there has been a lot of talk about the state of the courts and balls. __________________ "I find it's just a great pleasure just being able to plug an electric guitar in. It's what I wanted to do since I was a kid" Paul McCartney

02-13-2013, 12:29 PM	#58
heftylefty Professional Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 1,296	I wonder how much appearance money was paid to Nadal. Yes, the court is not Roland Garros, but he's playing 250 tourny. And being paid quite handsomely I might add. __________________ "Must serve big. Must put away easy volley. Must serve big. Must serve big. Repeat. Repeat. Hulk. Smash." - always_crosscourt

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