Whats your top 10 of all time right now?

[kiki]

Madrid, 1975 CC Gran Prix, assembles five of the best ever clay courters: Borg at his peak, Vilas at his peak, Nastase at his peak, Orantes at his peak and Panatta at his peak...you know who took the title? YES, HIM¡¡¡

[pc1]

Originally Posted by kiki

Madrid, 1975 CC Gran Prix, assembles five of the best ever clay courters: Borg at his peak, Vilas at his peak, Nastase at his peak, Orantes at his peak and Panatta at his peak...you know who took the title? YES, HIM¡¡¡

I don't know if all were at their peak but all were great players at the time. I think Borg's peak was about 1978-1979. If Kodes managed to win that over this field, that's very impressive.

[kiki]

Originally Posted by pc1

I don't know if all were at their peak but all were great players at the time. I think Borg's peak was about 1978-1979. If Kodes managed to win that over this field, that's very impressive.

Yes, they were at their prime years, even if the best Borg would be, as you mention, that of 1978 to 1980.But he had already won 2 FO and played a Masters final and 2 WCT finals.

Nastase would reach a Wimbledon final a year later and Orantes had his best year in 1975, winning the US Open on clay just a few weeks before the Madrid event.

I think there were other excelent cc players also, such as Ramirez,Bertolucci,Fillol,Dibbs and so forth.

Kodes path in the 1971 USO is also amazing.He had other wins were he had to defeat a similar amount of big names.

[Phoenix1983]

I have changed my list again, moving Rosewall back down to No 6.

I have decided a man with a 0-5 record in Wimbledon finals cannot be ranked in the all-time top 5.

1. Federer
2. Laver
3. Sampras
4. Gonzales
5. Borg
6. Rosewall
7. Nadal
8. Tilden
9. Budge
10. Lendl

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

I have changed my list again, moving Rosewall back down to No 6.

I have decided a man with a 0-5 record in Wimbledon finals cannot be ranked in the all-time top 5.

1. Federer
2. Laver
3. Sampras
4. Gonzales
5. Borg
6. Rosewall
7. Nadal
8. Tilden
9. Budge
10. Lendl

Phoenix, I'm sad...

[Benhur]

A team of 10 different players to play for my life against any other team and keep me away from damnation. I'd pick these 10, in chronological order:

Tilden, Gonzalez, Rosewall, Laver, Borg, Connors, Lendl, Sampras, Federer, Nadal.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by Benhur

A team of 10 different players to play for my life against any other team and keep me away from damnation. I'd pick these 10, in chronological order:

Tilden, Gonzalez, Rosewall, Laver, Borg, Connors, Lendl, Sampras, Federer, Nadal.

Benhur, with these players you would win even against E.T. players. I agree with this list.

[Phoenix1983]

I have moved Rosewall (yet again!) this time up one place to 5th.

1. Roger "GOAT" Federer
2. Rod "Rocket" Laver
3. "Pistol" Pete Sampras
4. Pancho "First Name Is Already A Nickname" Gonzales
5. Ken "Muscles" Rosewall
6. Bjorn "Ice Man" Borg
7. Rafa "Knees" Nadal
8. Bill "Lolita" Tilden
9. "(The Don) Budge"
10. Ivan "Drago" Lendl

[NatF]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

I have moved Rosewall (yet again!) this time up one place to 5th.

1. Roger "GOAT" Federer
2. Rod "Rocket" Laver
3. "Pistol" Pete Sampras
4. Pancho "First Name Is Already A Nickname" Gonzales
5. Ken "Muscles" Rosewall
6. Bjorn "Ice Man" Borg
7. Rafa "Knees" Nadal
8. Bill "Lolita" Tilden
9. "(The Don) Budge"
10. Ivan "Drago" Lendl

Good list. I find it hard picking between Connors, Mac, Agassi and Lendl. But I think Lendl is a good choice.

[TMF]

Originally Posted by NatF

Good list. I find it hard picking between Connors, Mac, Agassi and Lendl. But I think Lendl is a good choice.

I like Lendl ahead above them. He has better numbers, some of ridiculous records/streaks.

[NatF]

Originally Posted by TMF

I like Lendl ahead above them. He has better numbers, some of ridiculous records/streaks.

I think they all have plus points;

- Agassi has the career slam in pre homogenized conditions.
- Connors has ridiculous longevity, also the time at #1.
- Lendl obviously has the consistancy.
- Mac has that 84 season, an incredible peak.

If pushed I'd put Connors and Lendl together, with Agassi then Mac. But I think they're all tier 2 and all have plus points. Djokovic is creeping into that group as well IMO.

[Mustard]

Originally Posted by TMF

I like Lendl ahead above them. He has better numbers, some of ridiculous records/streaks.

Lendl above Connors? No way.

[NatF]

Originally Posted by Mustard

Lendl above Connors? No way.

Why no way? I remember reading some impressive arguments for Connors but I can't recall what they actually were...

[TMF]

Originally Posted by Mustard

Lendl above Connors? No way.

You say it as it's a slam dunk. Come on...Lendl was more dominant against the field than Connors during their primes. He has better slam performances(e.g. 19 finals), more weeks at #1, and multiple years winning over 90%. There's good reasons to put him ahead of Connors.

[Mustard]

Originally Posted by TMF

You say it as it's a slam dunk. Come on...Lendl was more dominant against the field than Connors during their primes. He has better slam performances(e.g. 19 finals), more weeks at #1, and multiple years winning over 90%. There's good reasons to put him ahead of Connors.

Connors has a longevity that is unmatched in the era of hardcourt prevelance on tour, which includes the majors. Connors had a clear edge over Lendl when it mattered most right up to 1984, by which time Connors was 32. Connors won both their US Open finals in 1982 and 1983, despite Lendl winning their previous match before both those finals in one-sided fashion.

Connors just had "it" much more than Lendl. That's my opinion.

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by Phoenix1983

I have moved Rosewall (yet again!) this time up one place to 5th.

1. Roger "GOAT" Federer
2. Rod "Rocket" Laver
3. "Pistol" Pete Sampras
4. Pancho "First Name Is Already A Nickname" Gonzales
5. Ken "Muscles" Rosewall
6. Bjorn "Ice Man" Borg
7. Rafa "Knees" Nadal
8. Bill "Lolita" Tilden
9. "(The Don) Budge"
10. Ivan "Drago" Lendl

Phoenix, Well done. Just keep on improving your list...

[hoodjem]

Originally Posted by TMF

I like Lendl ahead above them. He has better numbers, some of ridiculous records/streaks.

TMF makes an excellent point. I concur.

I have The Mighty Lendl slightly ahead of Connors, etc.

Of those listed, I'd rank it this way:
1. Lendl
2. Connors
3. Mac
4. Agassi

[Flash O'Groove]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

Phoenix, Well done. Just keep on improving your list...

I was looking for your own list but couldn't find it. What is it?

[BobbyOne]

Originally Posted by Flash O'Groove

I was looking for your own list but couldn't find it. What is it?

Flash, My list is an overview on achievements, playing stregth and (touch) skills.

It's extremely difficult to make a clear distiction between the players since sometimes two or three players are about equal.

Here my newest list

1 Laver and Rosewall tied
3 Gonzalez
4 Tilden
5 Borg
6 Sampras and Federer tied
8 Hoad
9 Connors
10 Budge

11 McEnroe
12 Vines, Kramer, Lendl, Nadal about equal

Nadal can of course jump up with the time.

It's hard to decide between Connors, McEnroe and Lendl...

[Feather]

Originally Posted by BobbyOne

Flash, My list is an overview on achievements, playing stregth and (touch) skills.

It's extremely difficult to make a cvlear distiction between the players since sometimes two or three players are about equal.

Here my newest list

1 Laver and Rosewall tied
3 Gonzalez
4 Tilden
5 Borg
6 Sampras and Federer tied
8 Hoad
9 Connors
10 Budge

11 McEnroe
12 Vines, Kramer, Lendl, Nadal about equal

Nadal can of course jump up with the time.

It's hard to decide between Connors, McEnroe and Lendl...

I can accept your argument that Rosewall didn't win Wimbledon because he was banned from taking part in it for 13 years. That's acceptable and it's not a knock on his greatness. I am with you on that.

Bjorn Borg didn't win AO and US Open. AO was not an important major then so that's fine he didn't win it. Borg didn't win US open and Sampras didn't win FO though they both got many chances to win there. Borg got nine chances and that too in three different surfaces. Pete couldn't even make a final at RG. Federer has 5 US opens and one RG.

What's your reason for putting both Sampras and Borg ahead of Federer? Borg, I can understand he won both on fast grass and slow clay. I highly respect Borg for that. Not that I don't respect Sampras, he used to be my favorite player at one point of tike.

I am just curios and asking your reasons for your choice