Miloslav Mecir vs Mats Wilander! - Page 2

Mustard · 02-21-2013, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by slowfox

He would sneak to the net unexpectedly and put away the ball. Opponents didn't see him coming at all. (at least that what it looked like to me as a spectator)

That's what Becker meant with his "lull to sleep" comments on Mecir's game, like Mecir would trade steady paced groundstrokes with his opponent, and then suddenly move up several gears in a flash to hit the winning volley.

Xavier G · 02-21-2013, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by slowfox

He would sneak to the net unexpectedly and put away the ball. Opponents didn't see him coming at all. (at least that what it looked like to me as a spectator)

I know. That's where his low-key, laidback persona paid off.

kiki · 02-21-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard

Second round. Becker beat Novacek before losing to Doohan. Santana in 1967 and Hewitt in 2003 are the only defending Wimbledon champions to lose in the first round.

Yes, correction.

Borg looked many times like he was gonna be off the event at the first round.1977 vs Edmondson ( what an unbelievable opponent for the first round, the AO champion), 1978 Big Vic Amaya, 1979 Tom Gorman, 1980 Rod Frawley...a great grass courter who´d reach the semis a year later.

kiki · 02-21-2013, 01:03 PM

Maybe,the best way to summon it up is saying that you cannot play like mecir, unless you´re mecir...

hoodjem · 02-21-2013, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kiki

Maybe,the best way to summon it up is saying that you cannot play like mecir, unless you´re mecir...

True. Enthralled with Mecir, I tried to emulate his footwork, speed, and laidback style by barely picking up my feet off the court, trying to glide around a lot.

To put it succinctly, all I ended up doing was falling flat on my face, after tripping over my own feet.

bluetrain4 · 02-21-2013, 08:30 PM

Mecir was known as the "Swede Killer" because of his overall great record against Swedish players, including Wilander, Edberg, Jarryd, Nystrom.

But, he lost some big matches, when it mattered most. In 1988 when Edberg won his first Wimbledon title, he was down 0-2 sets to Mecir in the SFs. And, someone already mentioned the 1987 USO vs. Wilander.

Great player, but just didn't have that "something" extra to get him to that higher level of Slam champion.

bluetrain4 · 02-21-2013, 08:32 PM

I always forget how often Wilander came to net. Look at some of the stats from his Slam matches, and it's pretty amazing. I always remember him as a patient baseliner, relying outlasting his opponent and making great passing shots - which is all true. But, a big percentage of his winners were from moving in, and he did it regularly in a lot of matches. No wonder he won Slams on all surfaces. Complete player. Yeah, these clips are great.

I wonder if Wilander could have more Slams if he could have stayed consistently motivated after 1988.

Those McEnroe Nike Shoes he's wearing in these clips were all the rage among my tennis peers. Lol. Yes, I'm old (40).

kiki · 02-21-2013, 10:15 PM

Wilander was smart and self confident to move in in strategic points
Sometimes he' d get bored and came in often and if that didnot
pay off no problem: stay back and get the job done

slowfox · 02-22-2013, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bluetrain4

Those McEnroe Nike Shoes he's wearing in these clips were all the rage among my tennis peers. Lol. Yes, I'm old (40).

Weren't those the original 'cross trainers' ?

krosero · 02-24-2013, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustard

Cash had been something of a nemesis of Wilander's for years, beating Wilander 3 times at Wimbledon and in a US Open quarter final, but Wilander won that 1988 Australian Open final.

Wilander had losing records against Lendl, Becker, Cash and Mecir. Do you know of any others?

Mustard · 02-25-2013, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by krosero

Wilander had losing records against Lendl, Becker, Cash and Mecir. Do you know of any others?

McNamara was a nemesis for a young Wilander. What about Agassi? Todd Martin?

Moose Malloy · 02-25-2013, 10:17 AM

Carl-Uwe Steeb was 3-2 vs Wilander.
Berger 2-0
Mancini 3-0
Agassi was 5-2
Sampras 2-1
there are probably others.
interesting that he never played Chang or Courier

Pebbles10 · 03-04-2013, 12:13 PM

some funny vids of Mats Wilander

http://youtu.be/x5lEw_LJLkA

http://youtu.be/IfToL6KdDtQ

http://youtu.be/nK4kG71imQg

http://youtu.be/U4bFRA4CUPU

evanjj · 03-04-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kiki

True and that AO is one of the finest. THE FINAL AND 2 SEMIS were all epic

Anyone know anywhere to download all these and other matches from that era?

slowfox · 03-04-2013, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by evanjj

Anyone know anywhere to download all these and other matches from that era?

Some guys on the internet have dvds available.

02-21-2013, 01:03 PM	#24
kiki G.O.A.T. Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 10,508	Maybe,the best way to summon it up is saying that you cannot play like mecir, unless you´re mecir... __________________ " I have watched plenty of matches of the 70´s and 80´s" ABMK, the historian

02-21-2013, 08:32 PM	#27
bluetrain4 Legend Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,290	I always forget how often Wilander came to net. Look at some of the stats from his Slam matches, and it's pretty amazing. I always remember him as a patient baseliner, relying outlasting his opponent and making great passing shots - which is all true. But, a big percentage of his winners were from moving in, and he did it regularly in a lot of matches. No wonder he won Slams on all surfaces. Complete player. Yeah, these clips are great. I wonder if Wilander could have more Slams if he could have stayed consistently motivated after 1988. Those McEnroe Nike Shoes he's wearing in these clips were all the rage among my tennis peers. Lol. Yes, I'm old (40). Last edited by bluetrain4 : 02-21-2013 at 08:39 PM.

02-21-2013, 10:15 PM	#28
kiki G.O.A.T. Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 10,508	Wilander was smart and self confident to move in in strategic points Sometimes he' d get bored and came in often and if that didnot pay off no problem: stay back and get the job done __________________ " I have watched plenty of matches of the 70´s and 80´s" ABMK, the historian

02-25-2013, 10:17 AM	#32
Moose Malloy Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,470	Carl-Uwe Steeb was 3-2 vs Wilander. Berger 2-0 Mancini 3-0 Agassi was 5-2 Sampras 2-1 there are probably others. interesting that he never played Chang or Courier Last edited by Moose Malloy : 02-25-2013 at 10:28 AM.

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