Daveed Ferrer VS Stan the Man 2013 Buenos Aires Final

[veroniquem]

I left Roddick in because the ATP still has him as an active player. + it makes sense, retired or not since he is the same age as Fed, Ferrer.

[Onehandedbackhand]

Ferrer will probably catch Roddick before his career's over, but no farther. 33(+) titles would be a great career.

[natalia]

Delighted for David

Breadstick for Waw the mediocre? Too good!!!

[Relinquis]

Originally Posted by Onehandedbackhand

And a breadstick for Ferrer in the third. That's title #20.

Here's my question. Do any of these other players actually do their homework at ALL? I mean the top players in the world just pound Ferru mercilessly down lines, take chances, move him all over the place, then put him away. Everybody else just hits with the guy. What do they think, that they are the one that's actually going to wear the guy out? That they'll be the ones that make him go impatient?

I mean, let's be real...we made fun of Simon and Monfils' painfully boring 70 hit rally, but that's nothing more than a crosscourt warmup for Ferru. No one else takes chances with the guy at all, or at least not consistently.

they can't do it consistently, the errors start piling up and then it gets to them mentally, the tense up and the error floodgates open.. then they try to outgrind him, we know how that ends, etc...

the top guys know they'll have a few errors using this strategy, but they set up for winners better and take a few errors here and there without it getting to them. i.e. they are prepared to lose a few points with the correct strategy as long as they execute well enough on average and in key points. the know that if they build up points better to set up for their winners than it will work out at the end.

check out Almagro vs. Ferrer at the Aussie Open earlier this year. all it took was a bit of nerves from getting close to beating Ferrer and Almagro's game came tumbling down... Ferrer was consistent the whole match. So strong mentally. Machine...

[Onehandedbackhand]

Originally Posted by Relinquis

they can't do it consistently, the errors start piling up and then it gets to them mentally, the tense up and the error floodgates open.. then they try to outgrind him, we know how that ends, etc...

the top guys know they'll have a few errors using this strategy, but they set up for winners better and take a few errors here and there without it getting to them. i.e. they are prepared to lose a few points with the correct strategy as long as they execute well enough on average and in key points. the know that if they build up points better to set up for their winners than it will work out at the end.

check out Almagro vs. Ferrer at the Aussie Open earlier this year. all it took was a bit of nerves from getting close to beating Ferrer and Almagro's game came tumbling down... Ferrer was consistent the whole match. So strong mentally. Machine...

So here's my question...

Can Ferrer beat THIS Nadal? The one with the bad knees and inconsistent backhands Nadal. Question is interesting because it's on clay, and we know Rafa on there.

[Relinquis]

Would be an interesting matchup... worth a dedicated thread imo.

i still think nadal will take it on a best of three sets, but a best of five might give Ferrer more of an edge. I'd say 50/50 on a best of 5 set clay match. i actually think nadal would do better against him on other surfaces as he'd be able to hit through the court more and come in to close out points.

There is time from now until roland garros. i think nadal should focus on getting healthy rather than worrying about results until then.

[Onehandedbackhand]

This easily might be a Ferrer title this coming Sunday again, regardless of Rafa. Last time Ferru caught Rafa hurt, he beat the crap out of him.