This the only Novaks problem

[WhiskeyEE]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

Way to cherry pick a bad photo of Nadal to fit your agenda. Here's a much better one.

Yeah, because a picture of him striking a blue steel in dramatic lighting is accurate.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyEE

Yeah, because a picture of him striking a blue steel in dramatic lighting is accurate.

Wth, is "striking a blue steel"? That pic was taken at a press conference he did. There was no dramatic lighting or anything special done to it.

[Relinquis]

are we really arguing that nadal isn't attractive? wow, just when you thought you've heard everything...

[WhiskeyEE]

No dramatic lighting? That's why buddy in the back is missing his face.

Same angle, normal lighting

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyEE

No dramatic lighting? That's why buddy in the back is missing his face.

Same angle, normal lighting

No, there was no dramatic lighting. I also saw the video of this press conference, and there was no Hollywood lighting at all. Here's another pic from the same press conference.

[WhiskeyEE]

If it was normal lighting you'd be able to read the letters behind him like the one I posted above.

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyEE

If it was normal lighting you'd be able to read the letters behind him like the one I posted above.

Well, here's the video. Please point out the dramatic lighting you speak of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fwst...ayer_embedded#!

[Relinquis]

he'll probably do a screen capture of nadal pulling a face and say that he's not attractive...

*sigh*

[veroniquem]

Love all those pics. Keep them coming

[Crisstti]

Lol, I think maybe we do need more pics of him on court and press conferences, etc. Where is that pic of him at Wimbledon, signing some autograph shirtless?

[MaiDee]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyEE

Novak comes off as a narcissist and it doesn't help that he's from some obscure country like Serbia.

Yes you are right

[Love_No1e]

It's hardly surprising. For the longest time Fedal were dominating so the fans split themselves between those two, these people aren't going to suddenly switch loyalties to a player who basically came out of nowhere to break up their dominance (always a top player of course but he wasn't well known because he wasn't really winning the well known events).
However, despite all this he's got a growing fanbase and on Facebook, although he only has about a quarter of Federer's or Nadal's fans, if you notice when he posts, the proportion of ACTIVE people who actually like or comment Novak's posts is probably greater than the proportion of fans that like Nadal's. It's easy to like pages on FB, I bet lots of Novak fans like Nadal and Federer's pages but the active fans show more loyalty so in that aspect he's not doing so bad!

[Clarky21]

Originally Posted by Love_No1e

It's hardly surprising. For the longest time Fedal were dominating so the fans split themselves between those two, these people aren't going to suddenly switch loyalties to a player who basically came out of nowhere to break up their dominance (always a top player of course but he wasn't well known because he wasn't really winning the well known events).
However, despite all this he's got a growing fanbase and on Facebook, although he only has about a quarter of Federer's or Nadal's fans, if you notice when he posts, the proportion of ACTIVE people who actually like or comment Novak's posts is probably greater than the proportion of fans that like Nadal's. It's easy to like pages on FB, I bet lots of Novak fans like Nadal and Federer's pages but the active fans show more loyalty so in that aspect he's not doing so bad!

What do you mean by active? If he were getting so many likes he would have more fans on there. He doesn't, and will never get to Fed or Nadal numbers. He's not likeable enough and that's all there is to it.

[Love_No1e]

Originally Posted by Clarky21

What do you mean by active? If he were getting so many likes he would have more fans on there. He doesn't, and will never get to Fed or Nadal numbers. He's not likeable enough and that's all there is to it.

I mean look at the number of likes he gets when he posts something, he gets the same amount of likes as Nadal when Nadal posts something. So what I'm saying is that even though he doesn't have as many PAGE likes on Facebook as Nadal and Federer, the amount of people who actually CARE about what he's posting and bother to like and comment on his actual POSTS and his cover photo etc is pretty competitive with the amount of likes Nadal gets even though Nadal has about 4 times as many PAGE likes.

Yeah he probably won't because tennis fans were/are already invested in two of the greatest players who are part of one of the greatest rivalries ever, so that doesn't leave much room for Novak to have fans and so considering that I think it's impressive that he even has a reasonable number. And it's your opinion that he's not likeable enough, many people may share the same opinion as you but I think it's totally unfair for you to put down Novak not having a huge number of fans SOLELY down to that. There are many many likeable things about him and in my experience a lot of other fanbases actually envy Novak's treatment of his fans. Each to their own though. To me quality > quantity anyway!

[Bobby Jr]

Originally Posted by tennisaddict

Form is temporary, Class is permanent.

This...

Djokovic's issues - if you could even call them that - are not how he is or acts now, rather the first impressions he made on people over the years before he peaked. He didn't endear himself to many people nor, more importantly, relative to Federer and Nadal. Federer was lucky to have gone through his formative years before the widespread-use of social media. In many ways he went from nothing to suddenly winning almost everything and having pretty much every legend of the game saying or implying he was the greatest talent of all time.

[WhiskeyEE]

Originally Posted by MaiDee

Yes you are right

In recent years, Fed has walked the line between confidence and arrogance, but Novak has been highly narcissistic even from an early age. The two aren't really comparable.

Having said that, I'll take Novak's narcissism over Nadal's fake over the top humble demeanour any day.

[Love_No1e]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyEE

In recent years, Fed has walked the line between confidence and arrogance, but Novak has been highly narcissistic even from an early age. The two aren't really comparable.

Having said that, I'll take Novak's narcissism over Nadal's fake over the top humble demeanour any day.

Narcissistic in what way???

[vladap]

Had you known something about narcissism you'd know that there is no such a thing as an early age narcissism. It is a normal condition at that level of personality development.

[WhiskeyEE]

Originally Posted by Love_No1e

Narcissistic in what way???

Mostly his early interviews. I remember him getting mauled by Nadal at the FO in 2006 or 2007 and then he said that he felt he controlled the match and should've won and everyone just laughed at him. That's textbook narcissm. He toned it down because now that he's #1 and in the spotlight he has to represent himself better.

[WhiskeyEE]

Originally Posted by vladap

Had you known something about narcissism you'd know that there is no such a thing as an early age narcissism. It is a normal condition at that level of personality development.

You aren't sigmund freud so don't act like it. That developmental process you're referring to concludes around age 11, when the super-ego or conscience supposedly develops. Moreover, "early age" is a relative term and by that I was merely referring to the early stage of his professional career, around the age of 20. So please shut up.