Federer at Roland Garros

[Roger_federer]

I thought his raquet was a ps 85. And does anyone know how heavy his racquet is?

[Marius_Hancu]

Originally Posted by Greg Raven

Here's an update. I borrowed the Federer racquet today from the office, and I got one of my playtesters to loan me a Pro Staff 6.0 Original 85 in good condition. One of my other playtesters has a few of the HPS Tour 90s, so I'll borrow one of them for this test.

I'll then string up each racquet (PS 6.0, HPS Tour 90, nSix-One Tour 90, and the Federer racquet) with Wilson Reaction at the middle of the tension range for that particular racquet. I will also fit each racquet with a Wilson Pro Overgrip. I am not going to use power pads on any of the racquets, as none of my playtesters uses power pads, and there's no sense in adding another variable.

I've got to go to a funeral next week, so I'll try to put this all together after I get back.

Also, I borrowed the Pete Sampras racquet we have. I'll take pictures of it and post them. I'm going to try to get clear photos of the lead tape (length and terracing) and the markings on the butt cap.

Very good.

Pls post, if you can,
the weight and balance (strung or unstrung) for each of them.
Stiffness and swingweight, only if possible.

Finally, we're getting to some real public measurements here

Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

Very good.

Pls post, if you can,
the weight and balance (strung or unstrung) for each of them.
Stiffness only if possible.

Finally, we're getting to some real public measurements here

I think Greg Raven has posted specs of his Federer and Sampras frames, though they might be with overgrips, other string, no pads.

[BreakPoint]

Originally Posted by Greg Raven

Here's an update. I borrowed the Federer racquet today from the office, and I got one of my playtesters to loan me a Pro Staff 6.0 Original 85 in good condition. One of my other playtesters has a few of the HPS Tour 90s, so I'll borrow one of them for this test.

I'll then string up each racquet (PS 6.0, HPS Tour 90, nSix-One Tour 90, and the Federer racquet) with Wilson Reaction at the middle of the tension range for that particular racquet. I will also fit each racquet with a Wilson Pro Overgrip. I am not going to use power pads on any of the racquets, as none of my playtesters uses power pads, and there's no sense in adding another variable.

I've got to go to a funeral next week, so I'll try to put this all together after I get back.

Also, I borrowed the Pete Sampras racquet we have. I'll take pictures of it and post them. I'm going to try to get clear photos of the lead tape (length and terracing) and the markings on the butt cap.

Thanks, Greg!

Looking forward to the results of the playtest, especially now in light of the new revelation of this Federer Signature Edition being released in Japan, which supposedly does not contain any HyperCarbon.

[brucie]

Originally Posted by PrestigeClassic

Hmm, I think it would be best to include a more recent China 6.0 85 (all China 6.0 85 frames came with bumpers), as that's what Federer seemingly used and what is supposedly the basis of Federer's current frame. Some of the older non-China frames have specs all over the place; hence, more variables in the way. To tell if it's a China 6.0 85, the bottom of the throat right above the neck should be wider to more easily allow the frame to be spun around a finger. Trying to do that with any of the older frames will snap your finger off. Ouch!

Hey in that ad where fed has the worms explode in his face from ball tube somewhere on here he is spining his racket on his finger maybe he has the China model.

[mowcopian]

thanks for the specs man.

[jackcrawford]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

Here it is folks, definitive proof that Federer's racquet is really a PS 6.0 90.

This web page lists the differences between the new Federer version of the nSix-One Tour that Wilson is releasing in Japan only and the retail version.

http://www.courtside.co.jp/racket/yoyaku06/federer2.htm

Well that proves it folks. Just as I suspected all along. Federer's racquet DOES NOT contain any HyperCarbon!

Federer's racquet only has high modulus graphite, graphite and kevlar, whereas, the retail version has HyperCarbon, high modulus graphite and graphite. I doubt Federer's racquet has any nCoded material, either.

Now if only Wilson would also sell this new racquet in the U.S.!

Amazing that anyone could mistake a marketing gimmick in a small country as proof of anything - oh, btw Tony Roche dropped by my country club the other day before leaving for Wimbledon and he, Sampras and I discussed racquet specs all afternoon. Sounds as plausible as the whopper you fell for from the Frech Open.

[Greg Raven]

Originally Posted by Marius_Hancu

Very good.

Pls post, if you can,
the weight and balance (strung or unstrung) for each of them.
Stiffness and swingweight, only if possible.

Finally, we're getting to some real public measurements here

I've already posted this information, but with the exception of swingweight, I'll get the as-tested specs for each racquet. In the case of the Federer racquet, these specs will be a bit off from his actual specs, because of differences in string, overgrip (potentially), and the lack of power pads.

[BreakPoint]

Originally Posted by jackcrawford

Amazing that anyone could mistake a marketing gimmick in a small country as proof of anything - oh, btw Tony Roche dropped by my country club the other day before leaving for Wimbledon and he, Sampras and I discussed racquet specs all afternoon. Sounds as plausible as the whopper you fell for from the Frech Open.

Japan a small country?

Yeah, so small that the manufacturers sell 3 times as many different models in Japan as they do in the U.S. So small that they introduce their new models in Japan first. So small that they sell their best models (e.g., PS 6.0 85, HPS 6.0 85, Ultra2, n6.1 Federer, etc.) only in Japan. So small that Japan gets lots of Prince, Dunlop, Yonex, etc. models that the rest of the world can't get.

BTW, does Tony Roche never talk to anyone?

[Greg Raven]

I've posted some photos of one of Pete Sampras' Wilson Pro Staff Midsize racquets. As with the photos of the Federer racquet, the green-and-white sticker was added to identify the racquet during the Kids' Day ceremony at the U.S. Open, some years ago. Also, the strings are nylon, and were neither installed nor stencilled by Nate Ferguson. Here's the link:

http://homepage.mac.com/gregraven/te...toAlbum21.html

[Greg Raven]

I've also added photos and re-shot the blurry ones of Roger Federer's frame:

http://homepage.mac.com/gregraven/te...toAlbum10.html