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Old 09-08-2006, 01:03 PM   #21
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Cool vid boojay! Hey Bungalo Bill and jackson vile...I'm following youse guys one more time.

I might have to check out this wheelchair tennis stuff. The #2 Canadian lives relatively close by. Gotta give him a call! Been in a chair for the last couple of years which has messed up my "A" game but not my coaching. Hmmm...I wonder if they have an over-50 category.

Deep balls with top spin...chair or no chair, hit 'em on the rise.
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Old 09-08-2006, 01:13 PM   #22
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Cool vid boojay! Hey Bungalo Bill and jackson vile...I'm following youse guys one more time.

I might have to check out this wheelchair tennis stuff. The #2 Canadian lives relatively close by. Gotta give him a call! Been in a chair for the last couple of years which has messed up my "A" game but not my coaching. Hmmm...I wonder if they have an over-50 category.

Deep balls with top spin...chair or no chair, hit 'em on the rise.

Hey I bet you could teach me a thing or two about tennis if you have been playing for that long! J/K

I see a lot of the older players do very well as they just know those little things to do, they already know and don't have to figure things out during the match. I have never played with an older person, and have to admit that I am afraid to LOL

I have a problem that when I am pushed back, sometimes the ball will jump too high and push me back until there is not room as it keeps rising. I know that taking them on the rise is an option but usually I can't spot it and it is too late, as it does not happen that often, and the slice does not work so good on these shots.

What do you recomend on the back hand side and the forehand side.


Also sorry about the post, BB can take things too far and I won't stand for him involving people that he does not even know, there are some lines that even slim can't cross but somehow he suprises us all

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Old 09-08-2006, 01:53 PM   #23
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I cant imagine any of these stories....sorry
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Old 09-08-2006, 02:21 PM   #24
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Hi jv, I took up the game late in life in 1970 at age 16. Tried every quick fix and made every mistake in the book the first five years but things finally clicked.

With regards to those high, deep balls...the guy who coached me learned the Harry Hopman Aussie method and used to lean into the shot and hit them shoulder height or head high with a slightly open racquet face on both the forehand and backhand sides. The ball used to make a crack sound like a flat shot but I think he hit it with a tiny bit of underspin and a perfectly timed wrist snap.

I used to hit it that way for years until I read an article in Sports Illustrated about ten years ago by Michael Joyce and his life as a journeyman tennis pro. He talked about the "revolutionary" power groundstroke game and hitting the ball on the rise. Couldn't remember his name until it popped up last week when they mentioned he was helping Sharapova with her game.

I was using that technique a lot out of necessity because I started to lose my mobilty at about the same time. I bellied-up to the baseline and developed the 3/4 turn (short backswing) with a long follow through type of shot that Agassi had been using for years at that point in time. The timing on the high shot was difficult but could be done 98% of the time if I could get to "my spot". It was great teaching these techniques to able-bodied students because they figured "if he can do consistently with his difficulties...then it must be easier than it looks."

Hitting on the rise is nothing new. I've got a video showing pre-WW II tennis icons, Ellsworth Vines, Fred Perry and Don Budge hitting the ball on the rise a surprisingly high percentage of the time.
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I cant imagine any of these stories....sorry
I learned that humans are highly adaptable.
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it looks cool and even though its just their hands they hit harder than many people that use their body
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Is he allowed 2 bounces?
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I just can't see a wheelchair person winning, i mean they give you a shot and you can just hit a winner, if it's fast i doubt they have the speed.
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I just can't see a wheelchair person winning, i mean they give you a shot and you can just hit a winner, if it's fast i doubt they have the speed.
Oh, man... you probably won't believe me, but the speed at which these guys can move (both rotation and lateral) is absolutely shocking. Sure, not as fast as able bodied, but that's what the extra bounce is for.
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pretty much anyone who doesn't acknowledge wheel-chair players are ignorant and stupid. i'm positive the ones who think nothing of said players would get their asses handed to them while using sissy, oversized racquets by serena williams.

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Oh, man... you probably won't believe me, but the speed at which these guys can move (both rotation and lateral) is absolutely shocking. Sure, not as fast as able bodied, but that's what the extra bounce is for.
Also, it's not like the wheelchair players just would dink the ball over...
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Oh, man... you probably won't believe me, but the speed at which these guys can move (both rotation and lateral) is absolutely shocking. Sure, not as fast as able bodied, but that's what the extra bounce is for.
I realise that now, watched that HIDDEN video.
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