Mindset of a champion?

[ClairHarmony]

U need to let an ESTP compete, holding her out isn't the answer. But u'll have to work on her spirit extra strong as you go...otherwise, at a later day, u never know and she just might derail...when things don't go exactly according to plan (as they often don't for us mere mortals in life, then whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do w/out a soul? Better to work on it now. Better to start, instilling that portion of her "lost" perspective now. It's in their, burried a little down deeper in there than for some, but it's still there. I have a greater perspective in mind now, a more universal way of thinking, less slamming, but more grand, ya know?). Vut it's exhausting, and not particularly exciting. But, oh well, I hope I guess, that someobyd's gotta try at least sometime, just the way it is. What little we can to contribute. I actually like ESTP's a lot, they don't really bother me, but rub others the wrong way, we all have certain types usually who just kind act like our triggers, hit that nerve, for whatever reason, it just is what it is, the more we feel inclned to learn about, then less and less so, then eventually just appreciate, the way it is, and grow stronger in the process, less blind-faults to deal with, feeling al ittle bit more sublime today. Btw, could well be a ST, maybe even a NT...but unlikely a SF, or NF, jmo, I'd skip the rest, I really think Niednagel's more accurate, bcs. he was the first to really start seeing through the persona. His type tends to be "made" for objectively, methodically classifying things and patterns that they see, less blinded that way, I mean come on, really, Dill Clontin an ESFP? An how an ESFP woman probably think shes an INFJ...just how it is. Niednagels' type I bleieve ISTJ tends to be best at not letting feelings or fame or whatever get in the way, w. what do I actually see...it's very hard to remain netural color blind-like that, most of us, we immediately want to apply our "persona" tint to everything, hey it's tough going through life feeling like vanilla pudding, but somebody's gotta do it. It's a "special" talent too, just not as obvious and "glorified" as some. Whenever you start getting into glorifying traits, you're just killing the soul, but don't even know it yet. Then, when everything goes kapooey in you're life, you'll go ah man, I wish I knw that sooner.

[TCF]

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[WoodIndoors]

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[Misterbill]

There are no pro-prospect or All-American college caliber athletes in our family in any sport.

But the motto in every sport has always been:

Play for the fun of it.............and there's nothing more fun than winning

[Pro_Tour_630]

Originally Posted by TCF

Well this certainly is an interesting thread to read!

glad I am not the only one who feels like someone is posting from a mental institution

[BMC9670]

Originally Posted by WoodIndoors

Clairharmony,
Thanks,
but without proper serve she's not gonna compete

I'm still wondering,

if my little girls is fantasizing how she wants to dominate in a way that her opponent totally submits, even burst in tears because also her wanted to win so much but couldn't

And some of you wondered if thats healthy or something ( me included)

Isn't that basically the whole idea of competitive sports?

Strong feelings, heaven and hell. Wanting to win and wanting to feel the victory...(which feeling comes from a realization that this could have had also a different ending)...and when losing admitting (through tears) that this is also part of the game. Without tears there's no joy either.

If that's not it, what is it?

Please don't tell me that the idea of competive sport is just to develope your game, for yourself...of course developing your game, being able to enjoy the process of it is very important, but to say that 'winning is not important, at all' is for me quite a bizarre thought...

probably developed by sportpsychologists only to get more non athletic kids involved?

I think all this is perfectly natural. She's a kid. Competitive, but still a kid. Drama, winning, losing, joy, embarrassment, tears, etc. All part of life as a kid. She'll mature. In the mean time, don't forget that you can use her competitive spirit to improve. Set goals. Make practice competitive. No need to rush into format competition until she won't fall back on bad habits just to win.

[valsmokes]

It looks like you're on the right path. I would suggest to play lots of points during practice. With the mindset that it appears your kid has I would bet that he/she gets bored with drills, if that is the case, try to involve lots of points in the training where he/she has to win and not just hit the ball with no point. You can use that winning mindset and still develop strokes. Try and get a good match play for every day where both players need to hate to lose. Play as much tournaments as possible. Always go a level up if he/she won certain age group do not play in it again once is enough and play him/her next age up. Performance under pressure is key and that is only learned through battles with people watching. You never know what you've got on your hands.

[WoodIndoors]

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[TCF]

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[Tennishacker]

Originally Posted by TCF

Not many coaches can allow kids to play mostly points and tournaments before they have the proper strokes....and then fix them. Once kids start winning it is not easy to revamp strokes.

Take your girl Abby for example.....when do you think they will totally revamp her serve before she blows her shoulder with that round house action of hers? Age 14? 16? Ever? Seems to me the weeks spent traveling to worthless 12s tournaments could have been spent traveling to a serve expert. The time spent battling for points in practice should be spent fixing the serve.

Watching her serve makes my rotator cuff ache....the stress she is putting on her shoulder and even the inside of her elbow is huge. And will only get worse as she gets bigger and stronger. She is going to be the poster child for winning in the 12s-14s and disappearing off the face of tennis if that is not addressed.

So magically at age 14-15 she will start using a totally new serve under the stress of competition after being a big fish in the 12s-14s? Easier said then done.

Agree, gotta have the proper strokes before starting tournament play. Almost impossible to change ingrained "tournament strokes".

She will never lose her "killer instinct", let her apply that killer instinct to learning the correct techniques.

[WoodIndoors]

Originally Posted by TCF

So magically at age 14-15 she will start using a totally new serve under the stress of competition after being a big fish in the 12s-14s? Easier said then done.

I've noticed that young players with even moderate success are often quite reluctant to even try that at practise. Once you've got the feeling of control, not very many people are willing to lose it...

[TCF]

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