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Old 12-06-2012, 09:33 PM   #201
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At national age group tournaments lately I've seen 4 guys playing Vortex. These are basically 5.0 and 5.5 players who know racket technology. Would really like to hit the tour 95 but not sure it is easy to get a vortex demo.
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:59 PM   #202
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At national age group tournaments lately I've seen 4 guys playing Vortex. These are basically 5.0 and 5.5 players who know racket technology. Would really like to hit the tour 95 but not sure it is easy to get a vortex demo.
Actually I think I got over excited about the Wilson.

Although I have not played with it I have lifted both and checked out the specs . The tour 95 just feels so much more like a players stick.

I have fallen in love with it and I doubt Wilson will win me
Over ....jury is still out.

As for putting vortex out of business.....man was I wrong . In fact I think Wilson has legitimized Vortex.

Once Wilson copied Vortex it's obvious that sparse string patterns are legit and people are now looking at the vortex seriously.

It's a racquet way ahead of it's time .

Wilson may end up just buying out vortex. As it stands now you can't even get your hands on a tour 95 because they are sold out . They may get a shipment on June but from the looks of it they can't produce them fast enough.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:39 AM   #203
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Or more likely, like all small brands to have the cash to pay for production ;-|
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Or more likely, like all small brands to have the cash to pay for production ;-|
Sounds more likely. As well, companies need to fill as much of one of those shipping cargo containers as possible before shipping. It is not like they can run a few off and ship them off.

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Actually I think I got over excited about the Wilson.

Although I have not played with it I have lifted both and checked out the specs . The tour 95 just feels so much more like a players stick.

I have fallen in love with it and I doubt Wilson will win me
Over ....jury is still out.

As for putting vortex out of business.....man was I wrong . In fact I think Wilson has legitimized Vortex.

Once Wilson copied Vortex it's obvious that sparse string patterns are legit and people are now looking at the vortex seriously.

It's a racquet way ahead of it's time .

Wilson may end up just buying out vortex. As it stands now you can't even get your hands on a tour 95 because they are sold out . They may get a shipment on June but from the looks of it they can't produce them fast enough.

Not sure if this was brought out before but wouldn't Vortex have reason to serve a cease and desist on Wilson?

Vortex uses 14 mains vs the Steam's 15 mains - maybe that lets Wilson off the hook
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:03 PM   #206
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Not sure if this was brought out before but wouldn't Vortex have reason to serve a cease and desist on Wilson?

Vortex uses 14 mains vs the Steam's 15 mains - maybe that lets Wilson off the hook
you can't patent how many strings are used in a racquet. That's not an invention.

What vortex did patent is the "V" shape of it's stringing pattern .
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:24 PM   #207
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I say - BAN IT NOW!!!

Are there no limits? What's next? A racquet that plays for you while you sit in the shade sipping an iced tea?

It's out of control. We need to go back to wood racquets and gut strings so that it's only the player himself that generates all the power and spin without all of this "technology" doing it for you. Or else how do we know who the better player REALLY is instead of just who's using the better technology/equipment? It should be YOU that's generating the spin, NOT your strings nor your racquet.
Believe me these rackets are not that easy to play with, they are rocket launcher granny sticks. The vortex is actually a better racket than the 99BS.
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Old 04-07-2013, 04:13 PM   #208
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you can't patent how many strings are used in a racquet. That's not an invention.
Apple has patented some absurd things in recent years so I can easily imagine how number of strings could be patented too.

The head of the US Patent Office resigned as it now comes to light that they had lowered their acceptance standards to clear a rapidly growing backlog. http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...-with-backlog/

I wondered why Wilson went to 16x15 and not offered a 16x16. Perhaps people would see that 16x16 gives as much spin[negligible difference] but decided to go with something instead that they could patent.
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The number of strings cannot be patented because its simply not an invention .

You can use any number of strings that you want ......

Its the same as if I tried to patent a 3 string guitar .....It just cannot be done.
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How can you patent this baloney when there was a 12X16 pattern 24 yrs ago?
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How can you patent this baloney when there was a 12X16 pattern 24 yrs ago?
The woodforde stick right ? I've been dying to try that!
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The number of strings cannot be patented because its simply not an invention.
You're many years out of date if you think that only "inventions" can be patents.
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