TW string friction data

heartattack · 10-09-2012, 05:02 PM

can anyone help me find this Prince recoil 16? Could not find it here on TW.
as i was looking @TW U w/ there string friction database. And I'm interested on Luxilon BBO as a cross and recoil as main. Does anyone have tried this set-up? thanks!

TimothyO · 10-09-2012, 05:44 PM

I'm a huge fan of TW's friction research. But do take the values with several grains of salt. The CoF value is not the whole story.

Other factors include stiffness, string deformation, and surface integrity over the long haul.

Two crosses with the same CoF: pick the stiffer one in general.

String deformation and surface integrity are related but different.

A slick string can deform or "dent" preventing the mains from sliding. Sometimes these are deep dents, other times there are many little ripples that reduce CoF. You see this mostly with monofilaments such as polys.

The surface of a cross can often fray into a rough texture over time. This too is not captured in the TW data. This is most common with gut and multis and really locks up the stringbed.

heartattack · 10-10-2012, 10:21 AM

thanks timO.

TimothyO · 10-10-2012, 05:27 PM

I've tried a bunch of multis and synth guts as mains with poly crosses. Also tried gut with multi and synth gut crosses. After lots of time and too much money I realized NOTHING compares to gut/poly for its unique combination of spin and comfort. The challenge with gut poly is control and durability.

Too often a soft poly can cause control problems given gut's inherent power.

And whether its poly crosses cutting through gut mains or going dead and harsh well before the gut snaps gut/poly can be expensive with frequent restringings.

So far the best crosses I've found include CoFocus for comfort, durability, and spin, especially in dense patterns; Focus Hex for spin in most any pattern and size; and 4G for control in open patterns.

There is no one "best" cross and it really depends on frame size, pattern, and stiffness. These three have proven great choices for certain frame types while others have defects too great to be viable imo. It all depends on your frame and personal priorities.

10-09-2012, 05:02 PM	#1
heartattack Rookie Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 241	TW string friction data can anyone help me find this Prince recoil 16? Could not find it here on TW. as i was looking @TW U w/ there string friction database. And I'm interested on Luxilon BBO as a cross and recoil as main. Does anyone have tried this set-up? thanks!

10-09-2012, 05:44 PM	#2
TimothyO Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Baseline Posts: 2,235	I'm a huge fan of TW's friction research. But do take the values with several grains of salt. The CoF value is not the whole story. Other factors include stiffness, string deformation, and surface integrity over the long haul. Two crosses with the same CoF: pick the stiffer one in general. String deformation and surface integrity are related but different. A slick string can deform or "dent" preventing the mains from sliding. Sometimes these are deep dents, other times there are many little ripples that reduce CoF. You see this mostly with monofilaments such as polys. The surface of a cross can often fray into a rough texture over time. This too is not captured in the TW data. This is most common with gut and multis and really locks up the stringbed. __________________ L27" \| 95" \| 16x19 \| Flex 57 \| 336g \| 8 HL \| SW 320 VS Longevity / IsoSpeed Black Fire 17 @ 56 / 50

10-10-2012, 05:27 PM	#4
TimothyO Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Baseline Posts: 2,235	I've tried a bunch of multis and synth guts as mains with poly crosses. Also tried gut with multi and synth gut crosses. After lots of time and too much money I realized NOTHING compares to gut/poly for its unique combination of spin and comfort. The challenge with gut poly is control and durability. Too often a soft poly can cause control problems given gut's inherent power. And whether its poly crosses cutting through gut mains or going dead and harsh well before the gut snaps gut/poly can be expensive with frequent restringings. So far the best crosses I've found include CoFocus for comfort, durability, and spin, especially in dense patterns; Focus Hex for spin in most any pattern and size; and 4G for control in open patterns. There is no one "best" cross and it really depends on frame size, pattern, and stiffness. These three have proven great choices for certain frame types while others have defects too great to be viable imo. It all depends on your frame and personal priorities. __________________ L27" \| 95" \| 16x19 \| Flex 57 \| 336g \| 8 HL \| SW 320 VS Longevity / IsoSpeed Black Fire 17 @ 56 / 50

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