Tennis Recruiting Network

[tenniskid3119]

they sent me an email, so I looked at the site and I'm on there?! i didnt even know it. It has my right city and state but It says I'm a senior. I'm just a sophomore.

[mrmo1115]

well thats what i mean they get years mixed up but i know that you can self change it yourself

[JMS]

Originally Posted by mrmo1115

tennisrecruting is good but sometimes there caculations and rankings are off and not exactly pin point as the usta rankings are on tennislink

i believe that if you are playing some one and just want a little preview of what your going against then you should go there

if ur just researching and want to find out more about people especially if u want to know what your true ranking is on usta then go to to tennislink

im not going to flame tennisrecruting.net but ive beaten many kids who are either 4 or 5 chips and i am .500 with 3 chips i should be moved to a 4 chip or a 5 chip im confused about how he upgrade you from 3 to 4 or 5 to blue

any body know?

yeah ryan noble is number 6 in the nation for boys 16s, and just took 3rd at the national cly courts, and he is not a blue chip recruit? and he is only 20 on their national list, it makes no sense

[Aeropro master]

i should be a one-star recruit! Its about time somebody posted stuff on this site. I spend a decent amount of time on it.

[weeman123]

Tennisrecruiting.net isn't exactly in line with the ranking because it takes into account other factors. Also, the ranking aren't based on your graduating class. You could be one in the country in sixteens and there are other people in your grade doing better than you in 18's and itf's.

The Stars work like this(not exact numbers):
1 star-below 700
2 star-top 700
3 star-top 400
4 star-top 200
5 star-top 75
blue chip-top 15? (very subjective not what number you are also includes big wins etc.)

The stars are only updated once a year in around late september. I hope that helped.

[babolat15]

ive known about this site for more than a year now

[ayyhwang]

TennisRecruiting is really inaccurate. i just checked mine and they're all wrong. for example it says my state ranking is 13 but it's actually 1. here's the link to my USTA state ranking: http://tennislink.usta.com/Tournamen...?id=343995&p=3

[weeman123]

that not supposed to be your state rankiing on tennisrecruiting.net it's comparing the tennisrecruiting.net ranking of people from your state

[rinz]

I think tennisrecruiting rankings are more accurate than USTA rankings because they are based on who you beat and who you lose to.
JMS, Ryan Noble isn't a blue chip because they decide what star player you are every september (if his ranking stays where it is now he will be a blue chip next school year), and his ranking is 20 because its based on tournaments from the last 12 month's, and he lost to many people who were not highly ranked last fall.

[Cfballer5]

its a pretty awesome sight but ive noticed that they dont update it that much because my record is way off on there.

[<3Tennis]

Originally Posted by ayyhwang

TennisRecruiting is really inaccurate. i just checked mine and they're all wrong. for example it says my state ranking is 13 but it's actually 1. here's the link to my USTA state ranking: http://tennislink.usta.com/Tournamen...?id=343995&p=3

But there's 12 people in you're state o_O
If you click on the return to ranking list on you're ranking page, it only lists 12 total players.
Is Maryland that small?

[rinz]

I think he is ranked number 1 in "Maryland" on that USTA ranking because its a regional ranking, and since most of the better players in Maryland don't do regional tournaments they are not on that ranking list.

Originally Posted by rinz

I think he is ranked number 1 in "Maryland" on that USTA ranking because its a regional ranking, and since most of the better players in Maryland don't do regional tournaments they are not on that ranking list.

yea rinz is right.

[babolat15]

seems inaccurate to me

[Fedace]

Originally Posted by serveitup911

...............

Hey Seveitup, Can you ask your guy, if Isner's serve is really as unreturnable as it looks like it is ?? I don't understand why the pros are having so much trouble with his serve, maybe it is due to the fact they haven't seen it yet. Even Ivo Karlovic gets broken more often than Isner. And Deeverman doesn't seem to have as much trouble with Isner serve and he is just a challenger level player at best.

I think they update all the weekly rankings every tuesday, and they update all the stars in September. They also release the hot 100 lists every 3rd week.

[rnoble]

JMS, RINZ is correct. Tennisrecruiting rankings are more accurate as they take people by birth year and put them in their age group when computing the rankings, even though they may be excelling when playing up a division or two. Examples of 16 year olds: Rhyne Williams, Jamere Jenkins, etc. 14 year old Denis Kudla playing 16 and 18's.

As for Ryan Noble, he had been a blue chip since the rankings started in '03. He competed in the Easter Bowl '06 with an unknown broken wrist, and was rounded for the first time in his career in singles. However, he still managed a Silver Ball in doubles. After that, he had surgery following sectionals when it was diagnosed, and then missed The Clay Courts, The Zoo, and 2 National Opens at that time. Tennisrecruiting does not issue the Blue Chip Status but once a year in September. There are no ranking protections for injuries as is done on the WTA and ATP. Therefore, Ryan lost that status in '06 as he could not compete to get the wins associated with a strong National Schedule.

I assume it would open up a flood gate of problems with kids claiming all sorts of injuries to protect recruitment options, should their status be put on hold by tennissrecruiting do to injuries.

Ryan will undoubtedly be a Blue Chip again this September.

[redsoxrock930]

thanks for that clarification

[dallasoliver]

As a TennisRecruiting.net founder, I wanted to answer a few questions about the service. FWIW, here are some random comments on this thread. I apologize in advance for its length.

- TennisRecruiting.net is not affiliated with the USTA in any way.

- TennisRecruiting.net provides independent rankings that are unique in two ways: (1) we rank by graduation year rather than age group and (2) we use a head-to-head system rather than a points-based system (i.e., what matters is who you beat rather than where you play).

- While we do have confirmed graduation years for more than 10,000 juniors, there are many juniors for whom we do not have graduation years. We make an "educated guess" at the graduation year based on a player's age, but there can obviously be errors. We clearly note players where the graduation year has not been confirmed. Players and parents are welcome to create a free account and update/confirm the graduation year.

- The website is free for players to use - they can update information for college coaches to see. We do have a premium pay service as well, but that service is to view additional information, read articles, etc.

- RINZ, rnoble, and others are correct - TennisRecruiting.net produces a single ranking of all kids in the nation - the regional and state rankings we show are simple filters on the national rankings.

- Playing people in other classes does indeed count towards your ranking.

- New rankings are released as follows:
- Boys College Recruiting Lists - Every Tuesday
- Girls College Recruiting Lists - Every Wednesday
- Boys CollegeRPI - Every Thursday
- Girls CollegeRPI - Every Friday
- Hot 100 (players improving their rankings) - monthly on Monday mid-month

- The ratings (Blue Chip, 5 Star, etc.) are produced once a year in late September and are based on play from the previous year ending August 31. For example, the ratings that come out this fall for 2007-08 will be based on tournament play from 1 Sep 2006 through 31 Aug 2007.

- The ratings are calculated according to the College Recruiting List rankings. Period. They are a completely objective rating - there is no subjective component. However, we do not change ratings for the year after we award them - Michael McClune and Hilary Barte are still Blue Chips even though they quit playing junior events long ago and are no longer ranked.

- Ryan Noble should absolutely be a Blue Chip when ratings for 2007-08 are released in 7 weeks... unless he loses badly in some local tournaments between now and the end of the month. (TIC)


OK... that's certainly enough. Again, apologies for the length. If you have questions or comments, I'd be happy to discuss, but it may take me a couple of days to get back to you - this is a busy time of year for us.

[JMS]

Originally Posted by dallasoliver

As a TennisRecruiting.net founder, I wanted to answer a few questions about the service. FWIW, here are some random comments on this thread. I apologize in advance for its length.

- TennisRecruiting.net is not affiliated with the USTA in any way.

- TennisRecruiting.net provides independent rankings that are unique in two ways: (1) we rank by graduation year rather than age group and (2) we use a head-to-head system rather than a points-based system (i.e., what matters is who you beat rather than where you play).

- While we do have confirmed graduation years for more than 10,000 juniors, there are many juniors for whom we do not have graduation years. We make an "educated guess" at the graduation year based on a player's age, but there can obviously be errors. We clearly note players where the graduation year has not been confirmed. Players and parents are welcome to create a free account and update/confirm the graduation year.

- The website is free for players to use - they can update information for college coaches to see. We do have a premium pay service as well, but that service is to view additional information, read articles, etc.

- RINZ, rnoble, and others are correct - TennisRecruiting.net produces a single ranking of all kids in the nation - the regional and state rankings we show are simple filters on the national rankings.

- Playing people in other classes does indeed count towards your ranking.

- New rankings are released as follows:
- Boys College Recruiting Lists - Every Tuesday
- Girls College Recruiting Lists - Every Wednesday
- Boys CollegeRPI - Every Thursday
- Girls CollegeRPI - Every Friday
- Hot 100 (players improving their rankings) - monthly on Monday mid-month

- The ratings (Blue Chip, 5 Star, etc.) are produced once a year in late September and are based on play from the previous year ending August 31. For example, the ratings that come out this fall for 2007-08 will be based on tournament play from 1 Sep 2006 through 31 Aug 2007.

- The ratings are calculated according to the College Recruiting List rankings. Period. They are a completely objective rating - there is no subjective component. However, we do not change ratings for the year after we award them - Michael McClune and Hilary Barte are still Blue Chips even though they quit playing junior events long ago and are no longer ranked.

- Ryan Noble should absolutely be a Blue Chip when ratings for 2007-08 are released in 7 weeks... unless he loses badly in some local tournaments between now and the end of the month. (TIC)


OK... that's certainly enough. Again, apologies for the length. If you have questions or comments, I'd be happy to discuss, but it may take me a couple of days to get back to you - this is a busy time of year for us.

thanks for the clarification