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12-09-2006, 06:44 AM
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G.O.A.T.
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If you read Bill Scanlon's book, he says that McEnroe does the tantrum thing not out of any genuine emotion, but rather he uses it just like he does his serve, to throw his opponents off. McEnroe never seems to throw a temper tantrum when he's winning...
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12-09-2006, 10:01 AM
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I am glad that everyone is in agreement that Mac's behavior is unacceptable.
I am a full time tennis coach and will not use any videos of McEnroe for teaching purposes because he is exactly the opposite if what I want my students to behave like. I wonder as a junior, in high school, or in college how many people he cheating on line calls or stalled opponents in matches. Why would anybody feel any enjoyment playing this guy knowing he is going to have a blow-up? What I can't figure out is after all these years is he still hasn't learned anything. He looks so unhappy playing the game, something that I tell all our students all the time, "You have to a fun" playing the game. There is a 46 shot rally on You Tube with Federer and Hewitt which Federer loses the point but turns around and smiles afterwards. You have to admire Federer for this. Most people would get ****ed off. You can only wonder how Mac would react. The shame of it all is that there is nothing "Modern" about Mac's groundstroke game so I would never show footage of that anyway, however, his ability to hit on the rise and his volley techniques are far superior to any of the players today who struggle with the extreme grips. As a commentator for the big networks I wonder why they haven't told him to either stop playing, or yank him. He is not a role model for future tennis players. Do the networks not see his split personality? Unfortunately, his greatness is overshadowed by his bad sportsmanship and gamesmanship. We do not want future tennis players to think this is okay. My students will never know is greatness. Luckily, they have never seen him play. ipodtennispro |
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12-09-2006, 11:35 AM
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Most people find it all hilarious. The crowds all love it, and they come in expecting to see tantrums and are disappointed if they don't. I don't see why anyone could get upset with McEnroe, other than the umpire. This is how he is and it's how he has always been. You know that he's a good guy off court and that he's one of the greats of the sport, so don't take it personally.
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12-09-2006, 01:01 PM
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Mac's tantrums
Again, if that's what you want to pay for, then buy tickets to his games. He is not entertaining to me anymore but there are a lot of people out there who are like yourself who do find him entertaining. Belittlling umpires and linespersons. People go to the race track aniticipating the crash. Everyone knows Mac is a spark and sparks turn into flames. I have even caught myself watching his games(seniors tour) waiting for the blow-up. Unfortunately, you can kind of time them when he is going to have a ourtburst. He is getting to predictable.
And that is what it is all about, selling tickets, entertainment. My only point is that we (as a sport) should not have to drive the game by promoting this guy. Bottom line, Mac tarnishes the image of our sport. How come our junior players cannot get away with the same behavior? I have always believed that wild animals like wild people we never meant to "Entertain" people. ipodtennispro |
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12-09-2006, 01:05 PM
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I was a freshman at Stanford in '77, the same year that McEnroe joined Stanford's tennis team for a year. (I tried out for the team; alas, not enough talent.) I would hang around the varsity courts sometimes and watch the team practice. One incident I remember was when Mac was practicing down-the-line backhands, and Stanford's coach, Dick Gould, said something to the effect of, "that's good, now try some crosscourts." Mac replied, loud enough for everyone to hear, "Shut up, Dick." So in my book, McEnroe is a Jekyll-Hyde personality, but the default personality is Mr. Hyde... |
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12-09-2006, 01:19 PM
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mac's tantrums
Unfortunately, these columns drive Mac's popularity, so this will have to my last post on this guy. My final point is that some people get enjoyment in seeing other people get berated and mistreated. They get their jollies out of it. Look at the popularity of the reality shows. Mac has tapped into this market. Financially speaking, I can't believe he needs the money, so you just have to wonder what he is all about.
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12-09-2006, 02:53 PM
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But I *wish* some adult would have knocked some sense into me earlier. (And I don't think anyone ever has with Mac.) As a Teaching Pro and a Coach ... I made it very clear I would not abide churlishness on my courts. (As a Coach, I had to default a player only once. The rest of the kids knew I was serious after that....) No more Mac the Brat players. Please! - KK
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12-09-2006, 02:57 PM
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12-09-2006, 05:11 PM
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Was the crowd made up of a bunch of 60 year-olds? When I saw him play doubles in California, everyone started to laugh when he looked like he was about to blow it. He didn't argue with the ump, though. He just stood still for a few moments with his usual scowl, pointed his racquet at the linesman accusingly and then went on with play. I guess he's a little calmer when he is playing doubles.
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12-09-2006, 05:29 PM
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as to him only doing it when he is losing...well yea...he really doesnt have a reasoin to do it when he's winning...he obvioiusly figured out early on that he could use his out of control tantrums as gamesmanship to throw his opponent off, which makes him even less of a real sportsman..he's a joke |
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12-09-2006, 07:47 PM
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12-10-2006, 06:47 AM
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12-10-2006, 08:11 AM
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He's hilarious sometimes (although sometimes he's ridiculous). Recently a serve was called in that he claimed was "7 inches out" and then on his next serve they called it out and he yells "COME ON THAT WAS ONLY 5 INCHES OUT!!!!!!"
I really enjoy watching mcenroe, and the senior tour. I never get why everyone bashes everything. The senior tour is great and fun to watch. Quote:
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12-10-2006, 08:17 AM
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As long as this kind of behavior is rewarded ....
McEnroe Extends Dunlop Deal Through 2009
By Tennis Week 12/08/2006 John McEnroe will continue to play with a familiar partner for the next three years. The Hall of Famer has extended his long-standing racquet and tennis ball endorsement pact with Dunlop through September, 2009, Dunlop announced today. Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed. In a career that has spanned three decades, McEnroe has won 155 singles and doubles titles, including seven Grand Slam singles championships. Playing with deadly precision on his slice serve, deft touch on volleys and an awe-inspiring intensity, McEnroe won his Wimbledon trophy in 1981, which he won playing with a Dunlop Maxply racquet. "My Dunlop racquet is a very important and integral part of my game," said McEnroe. "I played with a Dunlop racquet during the best years of my career and I still play with a Dunlop racquet today. I am delighted to be an ambassador for Dunlop since we have had a very successful partnership for so many years." McEnroe currently plays the senior circuit with Dunlop's distinctive McEnroe Maxply, which he helped design. |
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12-11-2006, 02:10 AM
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The thing is, he's not going to change. So there's no point in getting upset at him for the rest of his life. Just accept it and move on. Most people have chosen to find the humor in it. As long as he doesn't actually punch someone when he's out there, I will choose to just laugh at his misery and be a fan of his amazing talent.
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12-11-2006, 02:58 AM
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He is really beginning to look very odd on court. He accompanies his backhand with a little hop each time (as if he were always too close) and his forehand motion is extremely stiff. There is like zero knee-bend!
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12-11-2006, 03:35 AM
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12-11-2006, 04:28 AM
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12-11-2006, 05:31 AM
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I don't find anything humorous in Mac's behavior, because I can see that others are getting humiliated (including linespersons who get paid very little), and I know that it is part of his tactics to win the match at any cost.
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12-28-2006, 05:21 PM
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Yeah,his behavior is "part of the show". The worst part.
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