forget switching to the RDS I'm going to get the POG mid!

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i have been demoing racquets for the last month here is a list:

• Wilson K 6.1 95 16x19
• Wilson nCode six-one Tour
• Wilson nPS 95
• Wilson nCode nBlade 98
• Babolat Pure Drive Std. cortex
• Fischer M Speed Pro #1 98
• Head Liquidmetal Prestige MP
• Head Flexpoint Prestige MP
• Head Flexpoint Instinct
• Prince o3 White
• Prince o3 Hybrid Tour
• Prince Original Graphite Mid
• ProKennex Heritage Type C Redondo MP
• Tecnifibre TFight 320 (16x20)
• Volkl DNX 9
• Yonex RDS 001 MP
• Yonex RDS 001 Mid
• Yonex RDX 500 Mid

yes a very long list my 2nd pick was the redondo but i went with the open string pattern. my signature says future RDS but now it is the POG! you heard it first people. 1st place: POG, 2nd place Redondo, 3rd place RDS 001, 4th place:LM prestige (fifth would be FXP prestige but ill give to another racquet), 5th Place: Volkl DNX 9

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sweet control, feel, groundstrokes, everything, but if you read this travelarajm how could i make serving better with lead?

[federer_nadal]

he is going to say put lead from about 4 to 8 around the top of the hoop (inside) until you get a swingweight of 370.

[jackson vile]

I have this racket and have kept adding head to the hoop, it help a lot to stabilize the racket ect.

But the strange thing is that Even at SW370 the racket did not feel right, it did not get that total solid feeling, also it is still too powerful so I am very confused and the racket is 8pt head light with only weight at the head.

So that is very strange and makes no sense at all, I will have to take the weight off and measure what everything is, perhaps I got a bag racket.

At any rate I recomend a siff playing string in this racket Yonex 850, poly, armourpro, kevlar ect.

Add lead only as you see fit, don't use a soft string IMO, if you do string it high than normal.

[Gasquetrules]

I've got a POG OS. It's a good racquet, but I just don't care for any frame over 100 sq. inches because I use a one-handed backhand. (I picked it up in a trade.) Also, the big head makes it feel a bit unwieldy and the mass of it makes the racquet a bit much for my style, even though the actual weight of the frame is quite standard for a player's racquet.

But I've never hit with the POG mid-size. I've heard good things about it; but I've also heard the frame is pretty stiff, and I generally don't like overly stiff frames, so I've never considered buying one. I do have a Prince NXG mid-plus that I like better than my POG OS, but again, the NXG also feels too stiff.

Is the mid-size original graphite as stiff a frame as I've been told?

[tennis_nerd22]

nnoooooooooo.... dont do it! lol

what did you find better about the POG compared to the rds? just wondering

[Vitaly Evchenkov]

if you like the POG mid, you should really compare it to other MIDS... most of your demo list is all mp frames....

[KOtennis]

GO FOR IT!
sweet control, CRAZY spin.

[travlerajm]

Originally Posted by jackson vile

I have this racket and have kept adding head to the hoop, it help a lot to stabilize the racket ect.

But the strange thing is that Even at SW370 the racket did not feel right, it did not get that total solid feeling, also it is still too powerful so I am very confused and the racket is 8pt head light with only weight at the head.

So that is very strange and makes no sense at all, I will have to take the weight off and measure what everything is, perhaps I got a bag racket.

At any rate I recomend a siff playing string in this racket Yonex 850, poly, armourpro, kevlar ect.

Add lead only as you see fit, don't use a soft string IMO, if you do string it high than normal.

You have to keep in mind that the POG predates the polarized weighting that all the modern, more technologically advanced Prince racquets are equipped with (yes, the Triple Threat weighting is one of the few non-bogus technologies on the market). For anyone interested in SW2 on the POG, I recommend not only a strip of lead around the hoop from 4 to 8, but also a 2nd layer at 12 o'clock. Without the 2nd layer, the upper hoop will have lower power than the lower hoop. The length of the second layer depends on the tension. The more powerful the string setup, the more lead you will need on the 2nd layer to tame the power on groundies. If the racquet is too powerful, just lengthen the 2nd layer at 12. If the groundies land too short, shorten the 2nd layer at 12.

[jackson vile]

Originally Posted by travlerajm

You have to keep in mind that the POG predates the polarized weighting that all the modern, more technologically advanced Prince racquets are equipped with (yes, the Triple Threat weighting is one of the few non-bogus technologies on the market). For anyone interested in SW2 on the POG, I recommend not only a strip of lead around the hoop from 4 to 8, but also a 2nd layer at 12 o'clock. Without the 2nd layer, the upper hoop will have lower power than the lower hoop. The length of the second layer depends on the tension. The more powerful the string setup, the more lead you will need on the 2nd layer to tame the power on groundies. If the racquet is too powerful, just lengthen the 2nd layer at 12. If the groundies land too short, shorten the 2nd layer at 12.

Yes I have already done that, I could feel exactly what it needed

I have some old NXT 16g that was strung last summer at 58lbs, the racket just feels really weird, even with all the lead I put in the head it feels empty, I am thinking just restring with higher tension and stiffer string

[Ripper]

Originally Posted by Gasquetrules

I've got a POG OS. It's a good racquet, but I just don't care for any frame over 100 sq. inches because I use a one-handed backhand.

Where does it say that players with a 1hbh shouldn't use OS raquets? Are you like that guy who once said here that he felt the hoop was going to jam in his arm pit?

[WhiteSox05CA]

Is that a spin beast with the 14x18 pattern?

[Gasquetrules]

Originally Posted by Ripper

Where does it say that players with a 1hbh shouldn't use OS raquets? Are you like that guy who once said here that he felt the hoop was going to jam in his arm pit?

It doesn't say that anywhere. It just personal preferance of mine... and one shared by most men who use a one-hander.

But that's not the issue that concerns me. I just want to know if the POG midsize is as stiff as I've been told.

Anybody know or want to share an opinion?

Thanks.

[tennis_nerd22]

well, as an FYI, lots of people say they need at least a 95 or smaller frame to use a 1hbh, i use one with a 98. so each to his own

[cys19]

Originally Posted by tennis_nerd22

well, as an FYI, lots of people say they need at least a 95 or smaller frame to use a 1hbh, i use one with a 98. so each to his own

I use a 98-inch head too. Oversizes just don't feel right when I'm hitting my backhand. But it's hard to pinpoint the reason as to why it doesn't feel "right" since I'm still a beginner.

[tennis_nerd22]

Originally Posted by cys19

I use a 98-inch head too. Oversizes just don't feel right when I'm hitting my backhand. But it's hard to pinpoint the reason as to why it doesn't feel "right" since I'm still a beginner.

lol now i feel inspired to hit a 1HBH with an OS..

[Ripper]

A little piece of advise for beginners, the size of the head isn't what affects positively or negatively a 1hbh; it's the maneuverability and the swingweight. Basically, you may (or may not... the better you get, probably, the more overall weight you'll feel comfortable with) want to avoid racquets that are heavy to swing. Imo, between the two POGs, the MID is a bit better suited to a 1hbh than the OS, just because it's easier to swing. Not meaning that the OS is difficult to swing and/or that it doesn't make a sweet 1hbh racquet.

[Gasquetrules]

I can and have played with my OS POG. It's a good racquet. But I find that to control it on either side I need a significantly higher string tension than I use on a 95 or smaller. Otherwise, I get a trampoline effect off the big head and I can't control my shots that well. But the tighter strings reduces the power of the racquet. So why not just use a smaller frame with looser strings and get the same power and control, but in a package that's more manuverable?

It's not like I have a problem hitting the ball in the center of the strings.

Another thing I noticed about the OS POG. I play an all court game. The transition shots are very important. Especially the ability to hit the low sliced approach off the short ball to the backhand. With the big head, sometimes it's physically not possible to get the head down low enough to hit the slice without hitting the court. With a mid-sized frame it's just easier to carve under the ball and clear the shot and the court.

Since two-handed players more often like to play from the baseline and only venture to the net occasionally, the awkwardness of the bigger frame in the transition game isn't much of a factor. But it is for a player who is looking to chip and charge or has to hit the half-volley.

The heavy frame is more of a problem for me (and I think for most advanced players) on the forehand than on the backhand. I can generate a lot more pace off the backhand side because I am using the big and powerful muscles in my shoulder and back to swing the racquet. Plus, it's easier to really lean into the backhand drive and get my weight into the shot than on the forehand.

I can play comfortably with anything from 90 to 100 sq. inches. But beyond that the extra size seems to detract from my overall game.

Compare Gasquet's backhand to his forehand. Both are excellent shots... but the backhand is the better side.

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Originally Posted by WhiteSox05CA

Is that a spin beast with the 14x18 pattern?

o yes but the RDS is more by a little in my case

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Originally Posted by Vitaly Evchenkov

if you like the POG mid, you should really compare it to other MIDS... most of your demo list is all mp frames....

well the thing is i need more mpower than most mids offer