Ljuby complains Canas's a pusher! :)

[The Gorilla]

I read the link and it didn't sound like he was insulting canas or his style of play, just describing his strengths nad how canas beat him.The word pusher isn't italiscised in the original.

[ShcMad]

Originally Posted by BreakPoint

Both literally and figuratively. LOL

haha I usually don't like to make fun of people's appearances, but this egghead, along with Djoker **** me off majorly more than any other ATP player.

[Butters!]

Originally Posted by Mick

Ljubicic needs to read all those threads on the TW forum about how to beat a pusher.

Yeah, we're all experts. We seem to have the answer for every type of player. Yet we post in here after watching tennis on tv.

[Mick]

Yep, we have all the answers, we just don't have the technical skills to execute them game plans

[Chauvalito]

I dont care if its boring to watch, I think we can all learn something from his game...

Ljubicic's statement is accurate...he just wasnt able to anything with what Canas was giving him.

The problem is that he says it in a way that implies that Canas was doing something wrong, which he wasnt.

Didnt Ljubicic know he was going to play that way? He has been doing it for 3 weeks now, IW, and Miami.

Ljubicic should give credit to Canas for his tenacity, and then blame himself and/or his coach for not coming up with an effective strategy to address Canas's game.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Butters!

Yeah, we're all experts. We seem to have the answer for every type of player. Yet we post in here after watching tennis on tv.

Not true - some of the posters here have first-hand experience of schooling the pro's, like this guy who used to own Alex Bogdanovic:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=43907

[larlarbd]

Originally Posted by Ken B.

I want to like Ljubicic, but the dude just won't shut up.
He got outplayed, and his serve let him down. Maybe if he wasn't looking to hit 90mph backhands to finish the point he would have won.

I agree man , Canas played well - he won , instead of giving him credit it was a sad thing to say . I'm quite sure if You gave Lby a match against a 11yr old girl & if he lost - he'll blame it on the girls little legs that freaked him out so he couldn't serve . C'mon , You know how canas plays - come up with a better gameplan - why keep whining abt an opponent who has plenty of heart. Yes he keeps getting the ball back but we all know he does it in a enjoying way - he just doesn't get the ball back in the middle - yes , in the middle but with soemthing on it which makes it difficult to hit outright winners . He has heart & never give up mentality . Plz , give some credit to the guy instead of b*shitting .

[ShooterMcMarco]

Too bad Ljuby has that kind of attitude because I like his game.

[Butters!]

Originally Posted by SoBad

Not true - some of the posters here have first-hand experience of schooling the pro's, like this guy who used to own Alex Bogdanovic:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=43907

Really? I wasn't aware of it. I mean who would believe anyone in here if they said they were professional or beat a pro? Also, I wouldn't think a pro would go around posting in here as opposed to practicing, driving an expensive car, getting laid or traveling around the world. But if you say so I believe you.

[Mick]

Originally Posted by ShooterMcMarco

Too bad Ljuby has that kind of attitude because I like his game.

his forehand and backhand are nice looking.

[SoBad]

Originally Posted by Butters!

Really? I wasn't aware of it.

Glad to have expanded your HORIZONS...

[35ft6]

Dang. I think I'm starting to dislike Lube.

[pow]

Calling someone a "pusher" is no excuse to lose. That just makes it all that much worse. I don't mind playing a pusher at all, no surprises.

[TheNatural]

Hes just saying that his opponent dealt with the conditions and with him a lot better than he was able to deal with them. He needs to up the ante and change things that he's in control of instead of focusing on his opponents pushing or saying the conditions suited his opponent. It would have been more helpful for him to suggest ways he could have played differently.

Lubs height give him an advantage over almost everyone so he shouldnt be complaining about conditions suiting anyone else.


but....

I also think these guys words are overanalysed a bit, and he seemed to just be decribing why he lost and how the conditions impacted his ussual game more than his opponents.

Originally Posted by sarpmas

"He's just PUSHING the ball in the middle of the court, and you have to do everything," Ljubicic said. "When it's windy like this, it's not easy to go for the big shots. I think these conditions here suit his game perfectly."

source: http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

Consistent player that makes you beat yourself is really frustrating, huh?

It will be really interesting to see how Canas do against Djoker, a talented young gun with much variety to his play.

Technically and movement wise Ljubic is one of the worst top 5 players in the history of the game. Consequently he needs the conditions to be right to look good, including his opposition.

I can't stand the man.

[FitzRoy]

...says the guy whose game is built around the fact that he can serve better than almost everyone else.

Seriously, though. If his honest account of the match is that Canas hit every ball down the middle of the court, then I can see why players want to have coaching during matches. That sounds like a good quote from a guy who doesn't know what the hell just hit him.

So all one has to do to defeat the #15 seed, the #1 seed, the #6 seed, and the #7 seed in consecutive matches at a huge tournament is hit a lot of balls down the middle of the court? Sorry, I didn't realize that Canas must be the luckiest guy on the planet, to have all of these top players (apparently) play their worst against him.

Message to Ljubicic: sorry, my man; sorry that Canas wasn't giving you any free points like most of the other error machines you typically beat. If you are (as you seem to be implying) the superior player, then you should be able to use your superior game to set up a point patiently and deliberately. Are you basically saying that it's tough for you to beat a player who has less weapons than you because the conditions aren't ideal? In that case, you should probably wave goodbye to that thing you see slowly fading over the horizon...you know, your soon-to-be-former Top Ten ranking.

Am I the only one who remembers all of the break points Ljubicic had in the first set? Does anyone else recall him hitting weak, no-pace, passive backhand slices, as though trying to win at a crucial time by allowing the opponent the opportunity to make a mistake? Talk about irony.

To those who dislike Canas' "style of play": You're right. Determination, absolute focus, mental toughness, a willingness to fight for every point and every ball, and strokes that you can rely on in the clutch all day are not things to be admired. Hopefully this Canas chump will go away soon, right? A few weeks is enough already, so let's just go back to guys like Gonzalez and Ljubicic losing matches against Federer before even stepping onto the court. It's definitely more entertaining that way.

[pound cat]

Originally Posted by omniexist

Well boo hoo, Luby..deal with it.

Anyway, I hope Canas beats the Joker. Joker seems to be an arrogant ******* to say the least.

Djokovic's screaming father will have a hard time keeping up with the screaming Spanish speaking fans to-morrow. He's like Yuri Sharapov on his most obnoxious behaviour days.

[bluegrasser]

Originally Posted by edberg505

Hahahaha, I like Ljubicic and sometimes his statements are made more out of spite after losing. But I'm afraid he hit the nail on the head on this one. I was watching the match today and this guys game is worst than Nadal's. At least Nadal hits winners. But Cañas just keeps getting the ball back until the person makes a mistake. I simply cannot stand that kind of tennis. I hope Novak blows him away.

I was thinking - The 21st century version of Borg, he'd just keep the ball coming back until you made a mistake, not easy to do BTW.

[35ft6]

Originally Posted by SoBad

Not true - some of the posters here have first-hand experience of schooling the pro's, like this guy who used to own Alex Bogdanovic:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=43907

Holy poop, this is classic:

Originally Posted by Dedans Penthouse

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Seriously, here's what to do. You can't undue the past; you can't "unright" the wrong. So, since you went (as you said) "3 times around a full western" with your grips, it is apparent that you've gone beyond the point of return. KEEP GOING FURTHER AND FURTHER AROUND WITH YOUR GRIPS---EVENTUALLY YOU WILL FIND YOUR "ORIGINAL" GRIP. Think of it this way: if you've lost your way from home, continue west past the Atlantic, past the U.S.A., past the Pacific, past Japan, past China and Russia and past mainland Europe.....you'll eventually find yourself "PLOP!" right back at square one on your doorstep. Keep going with the exaggerated grips!!! Don't turn back!!! Your grips are totally screwed up, but continue to screw them up even more and you will eventually find your way back home--and from there you'll be on your way to kicking Roger Federer's ***. Btw, in the meantime, hire Alberto Berusetegui as your coach, and whatever you do......drink huge amounts of whiskey daily, you leg-pulling meatball, you.

How did I miss this trainwreck of a thread the first time around. Better than Federer!? That's a bold statement for a TW poster.

[vllockhart]

From what I saw, Lubi just didn't do anything to win points. I said, damn, he's standing back where Nadal stands. Doesn't this guy have a big forehand? Canas was on the baseline and stepping into the court to hit. Lubi had no aggrssion whatsoever. That's not how I remember his game. He's another one that seems to have lost his spark.