Nadal v Youzhny - Page 2

ollie6286 · 05-10-2007, 06:05 AM

when does this game start?

Tchocky · 05-10-2007, 06:54 AM

If Volandri can beat Federer, then why can't Youzhny beat Nadal on clay?

thu_huong · 05-10-2007, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

If Volandri can beat Federer, then why can't Youzhny beat Nadal on clay?

Should I watch that match tonight?
and cheer for Youzhny

caulcano · 05-10-2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

If Volandri can beat Federer, then why can't Youzhny beat Nadal on clay?

Because Nadal is king on clay & is unbeaten in 70+ matches on the red stuff. Federer on the other hand has been losing AND playing badly.

Tchocky · 05-10-2007, 08:30 AM

Nadal went to the hospital yesterday for dizziness. I think Youzhny has a good shot.

purespin · 05-10-2007, 09:49 AM

Not good news for Nadal

But according to ATP, even if he does withdraw, Nadal's streak will remain in intact. "A withdrawal is not considered a loss or a win," ATP spokesman Nicola Arzani said.

vive le beau jeu ! · 05-10-2007, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purespin

Not good news for Nadal

But according to ATP, even if he does withdraw, Nadal's streak will remain in intact. "A withdrawal is not considered a loss or a win," ATP spokesman Nicola Arzani said.

ummm not so sure...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moose Malloy

I got confirmation from the atp:

"Borg did have a streak of 41 in 1979-80 and he also had a mark in 1978
of 35 matches in a row not 49 because he had two walk overs in successive
tournaments. It was Borg's decision to withdraw in the middle of the
tournament not his opponent. A losing walk over ends a streak while a
winning walk over allows it to continue without counting the victory by
walk over.

This was agreed in consultation with the ITF. Hope that helps!"

The only problem I have with this is that they keep changing their minds on this, a few years ago the ATP said that Borg had the record with 49.

Its a kinda strange ruling since a walkover doesn't count in win/loss records nor head-to-head records, but apparently counts in this matter.

Not counting walkovers, Borg won 48 straight matches from '79-'80 in addition to his 49 in '78(and I think we all can agree the World Team Cup probably is the most meaningless event on tour, so his win streak at real tournaments in '80 then arguably went on a bit longer. Amazing that Borg had so many long win streaks in his career that only got interruped by walkovers(& retirements as well it seems)

Regardless I probably feel Vilas should have the record(though as urban said all news reports in 1977 said it was 50 match streak, not 46, it is a record that has apparently been altered by the atp over the years), even though according to their rules Borg should have it.

And the fact that he won so many matches in consecutive weeks, unlike Borg & Federer who did it over a longer period of time is pretty impressive(though he never got to play Borg during that streak in '77!), even though they were all on clay.

anyway, the best way to end it is to go on the court and be eliminated by youzhny !

davai mikhail !

rafan · 05-10-2007, 09:57 AM

Can't say much for Youzhny if he has to wait for Nadal to have a dizzy turn in order to beat him on clay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DueSouth · 05-10-2007, 09:59 AM

Yes,I have heard that Nadal went to see doctors about dizziness and they said that he should be fine.So we will have to see what he is like when he turns up. Besides,Nadal is such a machine he could probably win with dizziness anyway.

diegaa · 05-10-2007, 10:46 AM

It is about to start.

if nadal is in full physical condition, he would kill Y.

purespin · 05-10-2007, 10:52 AM

Nadal serve first. Held his serve. Then broke Youzhny's serve in the next game. 2-0.

Perfect start for Nadal.

Morrissey · 05-10-2007, 11:02 AM

Nadal holds serve up 3-0

fastdunn · 05-10-2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

If Volandri can beat Federer, then why can't Youzhny beat Nadal on clay?

If Nadal and Volandri can beat Federer, why can't Youzhny beat Fed ?

TennisandMusic · 05-10-2007, 11:10 AM

How do you all think Nadal is looking. He doesn't look too good to me. Just doesn't look fresh or entirely confident.

Ok. Now he just played an amazing point. Wow.

Morrissey · 05-10-2007, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastdunn

If Nadal and Volandri can beat Federer, why can't Youzhny beat Fed ?

I don´t think he can beat him on clay anyway.

Morrissey · 05-10-2007, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastdunn

If Nadal and Volandri can beat Federer, why can't Youzhny beat Fed ?

Good point. But this had more to do with Fed´s game.

Morrissey · 05-10-2007, 11:14 AM

Nadal up 4-1

Shabazza · 05-10-2007, 11:23 AM

It's a good match so far, some nice ralliey and what I like about Youzhny he never gives up.

Morrissey · 05-10-2007, 11:25 AM

Nadal holds again for 5-2

arnz · 05-10-2007, 11:27 AM

Nadal probably likes seeing the names Berdych, Youzhny, etc. on clay courts so he can even the head to head. Too bad for him Blake never gets far enough to meet him on clay

05-10-2007, 06:54 AM	#22
Tchocky Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 3,801	If Volandri can beat Federer, then why can't Youzhny beat Nadal on clay? __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them.

05-10-2007, 08:30 AM	#25
Tchocky Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The OC Posts: 3,801	Nadal went to the hospital yesterday for dizziness. I think Youzhny has a good shot. __________________ The significant problems we face cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them.

05-10-2007, 10:52 AM	#31
purespin Semi-Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 555	Nadal serve first. Held his serve. Then broke Youzhny's serve in the next game. 2-0. Perfect start for Nadal. Last edited by purespin : 05-10-2007 at 11:00 AM.

05-10-2007, 11:23 AM	#38
Shabazza Legend Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,106	It's a good match so far, some nice ralliey and what I like about Youzhny he never gives up. __________________ "Whatever is begun in anger ends in shame." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?" - Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)

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